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Re: NYC Slice

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Post by freejazz »

pzone wrote: post #245
freejazz wrote: post #168

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Prince st pizza is a joke, it's literally just a pepperoni gimmick and any serious NY'er isn't putting up with that crap, let alone waiting on a stupidly long line to eat it.

It didn’t always have the lines. Especially post pandemic the calculus is different. Still a damn good slice worth trying at least once.

I tried it because I worked around there and it was before it went viral. There's no need to travel across the city to try a "slice". When I'm in a neighborhood that has a good spot, I'll stop through. There's nothing about Prince st that requires it being tried unless you want to participate in the trend. It's just a basic pizza place that went viral because they put a stupid amount of cupping pepperoni on their slices. It's really got nothing to do with what I'd call my conception or experience of pizza as a lifelong New Yorker.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by tyingq »

yamtaddle wrote: post #5

> but the overall quality of your average slice in the city has definitely suffered This is true of the big national chains, too. They've kept prices relatively stable for damn near 25 years, at this point, but quality has gotten far worse over that same time span. That mouth-watering Pizza Hut pie you remember from 1992 isn't all nostalgia—every now and then I find single-location or small-chain joints that make piz…

The shrinkflation thing is getting out of hand. Not pizza, but I like those Kaukauna brand almond covered cheese balls. They replaced the 10 ounce product with a 6 ounce one, and then charge 10% more for the smaller ball.

Too bad Liam didn't track the average weight of the slices. I have a hunch that might have tracked down as well.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by obrajesse »

neilv wrote: post #218
awhitty wrote: post #130

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I 100% agree, and I've only visited NYC a couple times. Each time I visit, I try to eat at least one slice of pizza and one bagel every day. The thing that blows me away is how generally good they are, no matter where I buy them. Of course I'll look at reviews, but I won't walk more than 5 blocks to get a slice. Never been disappointed. Same thing visiting Paris - you can hunt for the BEST croissant, but the remarkab…

Has any NYC bagel aficionado living in Boston tried Bagelsaurus? (In Porter Square, on Mass. Ave.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xup2Lcd4Ers

Have they relented on only offering cold-smoked salmon yet?

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by kakoni »

yamtaddle wrote: post #184
qbasic_forever wrote: post #58

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Pizza Hut pan pizza is the easiest pizza to make yourself at home. You don't need a stand mixer, it's a no knead recipe (long overnight rise builds all the gluten). You don't need a fancy super hot oven, it just cooks at 400 degrees F in a cast iron skillet. Give this recipe a shot, it's unbelievably good and very accessible: https://www.seriouseats.com/foolproof-pan-pizza-recipe or https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-srf…

I've got about as good a home pizza game as one can have without a modded or specialty oven, and can confirm, cast iron pan pizza is the perfect place for a newbie to start. The transfer from peel to cook surface is the most likely thing to go catastrophically wrong for someone starting out—pan pizza eliminates that step. No special equipment needed whatsoever—no peel, no stone, don't even need farina or coarse cornm…

> The transfer from peel to cook surface … go catastrophically wrong

Indeed, describes my attempts. Any tips how to succeed in this?

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by pzone »

mzg wrote: post #102
tptacek wrote: post #94

I'm not a New Yorker, but a New York food person I follow has a small rant about how people obsess about the best NYC slice, but that the real point of NYC pizza is that it's available everywhere in the city, like that you are never far from a good NYC slice --- so that the idea of seeking out particular slices kind of misses the point. NYC'ers: how bad is that take? (None of this is to say that it's illegitimate for…

Honestly, a solid take! It’s more of an optimization problem — find the best balance of quality, proximity, and price, and you’ve got your favorite slice shop. If you’re at a friend’s or a loved one’s, that solution changes, and you begin to associate the flavor of that slice with them and their home. Sometimes it’s worth it to make a trip out to one of the pizza Meccas—Lucali, Joe’s on Carmine, L&B Spumoni Gardens,…

I do not get the love for L&B Spumoni Gardens!

My reaction to tasting their food was similar to this: https://youtube.com/shorts/ra72I-5t5D0

Downtown Brooklyn has Norm’s and Juliana’s. Sadly the whole area is kind of devoid of commercial activity and restaurants.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by freejazz »

mgce wrote: post #243
freejazz wrote: post #157

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Those are all tourist spots. The list in the link is way better because it consists of outer borough spots.

They're perfectly legitimate spots. F&F is superior to nearly any place in the city, L'Industrie is fine. The others are also fine. Yes they're touristy, but so what? Outer-borough superiority is a myth. Most local outer-borough places are simply bad. This includes all the usual suspect neighborhoods: Belmont, Pelham Bay, Bay Ridge, Bensonhurst, most of Staten Island, etc. The good places are the exception in the out…

I didn't say they were illegitimate. They are certainly pizza spots. Acting like it's not a good list because the poster didn't go to the top 5 most famous tourist traps for pizza is just indicating more on your part.

>"Outer-borough superiority is a myth. Most local outer-borough places are simply bad. This includes all the usual suspect neighborhoods: Belmont, Pelham Bay, Bay Ridge, Bensonhurst, most of Staten Island, etc. The good places are the exception in the outer boroughs, just as they are in Manhattan."

I didn't say all the places in the outer-boroughs were inherently better. I said a list where the individual actually went to the outer-boroughs is more qualified in my opinion. I don't really care what someone thinks about pizza if they just went to the top 5 places that they saw on instagram. I also don't really care about your opinion on pizza too. Oh you went to pelham bay and didn't get a good slice at the joint you chose? Seems more like a you problem. Maybe make some friends, talk to the locals. I grew up in an outer-borough and I know the good spots in my neighborhood and the bad. Seems like you have difficulty navigating these things. Sorry about that.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by kaesar14 »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #211
rcme wrote: post #15

Many who grow up in the NY area grow up on pizza. In childhood, it's often eaten as a quick meal that doesn't require cooking. In adolescence, pizza is one of the only foods you can afford to eat out with your friends after school. In college, there's nothing like a drunken slice of pizza at 1 am. It's hard to overstate what a satisfying comfort food pizza is. There's truly nothing like it.

> Many who grow up in the NY area grow up on pizza. Average pizza slice that we're discussing is according to https://www.nutritionix.com/i/nutritionix/new-york-style-piz... 500+ calories, lots of saturated fat, lots of sodium. How healthy is it to grow up on pizza?

Grow up on can mean a lot of things here, I and many other New Yorkers would take it to mean the food that has the most significance in our memories. Its not about eating this stuff every day, it’s about the food we cherish.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by pnf »

awhitty wrote: post #130
billiam wrote: post #90

Native New Yorker here. Out of towners are obsessed with the BEST slice, but the true measure of NYC's 45 degree greatness is the decent quality following a Poisson distribution. My tip: just travel to any random spot in the five boroughs. First; you will be impressed how close you are to a pizza spot wherever you are. Second: you will be impressed with the slice, and with the variety of people who are good at making…

I 100% agree, and I've only visited NYC a couple times. Each time I visit, I try to eat at least one slice of pizza and one bagel every day. The thing that blows me away is how generally good they are, no matter where I buy them. Of course I'll look at reviews, but I won't walk more than 5 blocks to get a slice. Never been disappointed. Same thing visiting Paris - you can hunt for the BEST croissant, but the remarkab…

I've spent a lot of time in Paris and NYC but have found it very hard to find a randomly good croissant; less so a randomly good slice. I've tried many of the foodie favorites for both and been largely unimpressed. There have a few truly excellent. Maybe they ruined me for others.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by moloch-hai »

I have found that I need to pay $5 for a good slice, nowadays.

Most pizza even in NYC is not good, by my standards. I.e., I can do better than those at home.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by DonHopkins »

yamtaddle wrote: post #92
RandallBrown wrote: post #44

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I genuinely feel bad for you. I really enjoy Little Caesar's (and most pizza.)

The ideal place to be is knowing when pizza is bad, but still being able to enjoy bad pizza. That kinda goes for most things, really.

I'm that way with my science fiction.

I'm bistellar: I love both Star Wars and Star Trek.

But I fully realize that Bladerunner is astronomically better than either of them.

And none of those masterpiees keep me from fully enjoying smutty trash like Space Truckers, or even any of Philip K Dick's horrible random short stories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQOqLOErhZA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Ifaeff0mA

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