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Amazon Ring cameras used in nationwide ‘swatting’ spree, US Justice Dept. says

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Re: Amazon Ring cameras used in nationwide ‘swatting’ spree, US Justice Dept. says

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The funny thing is, while "to protect yourself from government tyranny" is the favorite phrase of gun enthusiasts and gun lobbies in this country, whenever a citizen uses a gun in justifiable defense against police (the most recent notable one being Breonna Taylor's case) these same people side with the police every time.

Some politicians have staked themselves on this issue publicly. Can't recall the name, but a GOP candidate explicitly said that he would shoot the police if the entered with a no-knock warrant into his home. One challenge is that citizens side with the police in court.

It doesn't even get to court very often, thanks to police investigating themselves, and DAs who are beholden to them one way or another.

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post #224

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As a sysadmin of many decades, I have not owned a printer in 15 years, and no self respecting tech worker I know would ever have one of them in their home. I do have an enterprise grade network, next gen firewall, a homelab, and a host of vlans with home automation segmented off to a dedicated network with zero internet access

That's... a little extreme. I have a printer, and it's... fine. > I do have an enterprise grade network, next gen firewall, a homelab, and a host of vlans with home automation segmented off to a dedicated network with zero internet access You're not a typical tech worker.

Even for prosumer IT, those features aren't unusual.

Big communities exist online for it now, but a majority of the young professionals we interview have AV/IT racks at home, usually outfitted with a 3D printer or two on top. Whether it's for their home theaters, their video work, or some general labbing or engineering, they're proud of them, and it doesn't hurt to demonstrate investment into their interests and working knowledge.

It might not be typical of coders who favor high mobility or other software-only roles like application support and front end, or it might just be regional since we're in a tech and research hub surrounded by colo facilities and data centers, but it's kind of funny how naked and vulnerable people look when they come in with just a MacBook loaded with their livelihoods.

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"Swatting" isn't a significant problem in other parts of the world because the result is super boring: The police knock on the door, ask some questions, and then leave. It is only a problem in the US because the response itself is terrifying and often dangerous. Multiple people have died from "swatting" in the US[0]. "Swatting" should carry a jail term for sure. But police reform is a large component in solving the p…

There are estimated to be thousands of swatting incidents in a given year, so the "super boring" result evidently happens the vast majority of the time in the US too. It's also not always that boring in other countries. Here is an example that involved more than some questions and leaving: https://www.wjhl.com/news/local/18-year-old-arrested-in-cana...

Good to know I got only a 1 in 1000 chance of dying because Americans are so hyped up on fake maga tough guy takes that we can't agree to hold police accountable for their behavior.

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post #85

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Keffals was swatted in Canada, and Canada has a far less extreme police and gun culture compared to the USA.

Far-less extreme? Why? Just because they loudly profess it?

Any way you want to measure it, it is less extreme.

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> prompted the FBI to issue a public service announcement in late 2020 urging users of smarthome security cameras to use unique passwords From a tech point of view, first in the medium term I first look forward to the long, long, loooonnnng awaited day when this entire class of attacks finally vanishes along with the madness of shared symmetric authentication in favor of proper public key systems. A solid decade and…

> Passkey/Webauthn/FIDO2 ecosystem finally seems to be hitting the tipping point Where N is the number of services the key unlocks, is there a O(1) migration story yet?

>Where N is the number of services the key unlocks, is there a O(1) migration story yet?

I'm not 100% sure I'm interpreting what you meant by this correctly, but if you're saying essentially "is there a single click button that will change all my existing accounts over" the answer is a mixture of "no of course" and "there wouldn't be one answer anyway". I mean, there are still plenty of people who don't even use password managers or have any real formal list of services at all. How would you expect there to be any automated migration there? And even with a password manager it'd still be pretty complex to manage some sort of automated switchover given the diversity of credentials and back ends (remember we're not just dealing with websites), even beyond user interaction being required for each use of many hardware key systems (which is indeed good security practice).

However I don't think that matters much having already been through a service migration ages ago with the rise of password managers themselves (and being a fairly early adopter). What happened there (or for email migrations for that matter) was a basic piecemeal/spread-it-out approach. A handful of critical services got changed right away, and then over time I switched others from using old bad passwords of a small set to being listed/managed by password manager(s) whenever I accessed them. The most frequently accessed happened the quickest, others eventually, and I made some systematic effort to get some of the long tail I cared about while just abandoning a few of the very oldest.

As it becomes more universal and everyone gets comfortable with it being battle tested, kinks worked out, rich ecosystems etc, I suspect we'll then start to see sites actively prompting/requiring people to add or switch, which will then happen naturally in the course of normal usage. I currently have almost 1000 items in my password manager (though granted not all of them are passwords) which is intimidating on the face of it, but previous experience tells me it won't actually be a big deal. A few dozen already have keys registered, and over time that will naturally increase as services/systems add support. Well before this time in 2032 I expect everything to be switched that's still actively maintained. Even IRC allowed moving to using client certs instead of passwords a while ago!

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post #242

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> I still have no idea why anyone would want automated light switches. Security.

The security part is a solved problem, unless you think a burglar is obsessed with your house in particular; they've made outlet timers for decades.

I looked into that... Outlet timers are now more expensive than a smart power plug ($10 vs $5). I went the smart route.

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I still have no idea why anyone would want automated light switches. Unless they are bedridden. The conventional light switches never fail. The dimmer switches go out every 5 years or so, and I eventually get fed up and just replace them with a conventional switch. I've had programmable thermostats, but the user interfaces on them are so terrible I eventually replace them with one with a simple dial and thermostat.

That is true for some switches made by fly-by-night Silicon Valley companies. Especially the ones that need a Wifi connection to work. The ones I use are made by Lutron, who has a long history of making conventional light switches. They act just like normal switches, and I could sell my house without the home automation system, and it would be perfectly functional for the new owner. Having carefully designs home auto…

Yeah, pressing a light switch is a huge strain on the body and mind ;-)

Lolz aside, as an engineer, the main turnoff for me is not the privacy, though that is a concern, but the introduction of complexity. I like my house like I like my software: clean and minimalistic :)

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Switzerland is about 1/5 the guns per capita. If you look at US state gun prevalence, it reliably correlates to the where higher numbers of police are killed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_g...

Chicken/egg problem. Who escalated first?

You can solve this by not giving police guns in the first place.

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post #199

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Is that an educated preference - you have looked up your chances of survival in an armed response vs a negotiated one, or an instinct?

In this hypothetical we’re beyond negotiation anyway. I think I made this clear with the clause “in imminent danger of being killed”. If hostage negotiation were possible, that would not be imminent danger of being killed. I’m a member of a minority group that is currently experiencing an uptick in violence from the American public. I’m generally a good-natured person and tend not to make enemies. If someone is in my…

“I’m a member of a minority group that is currently experiencing an uptick in violence from the American public.”

That’s horrible, it’s insane the lengths people will go to satiate their misperceived anger.

What are the violent acts being committed?

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