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Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by rtkwe »

anigbrowl wrote: post #79
rtkwe wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's for new orders not an indication of replacement depth held by the utility companies though. Also in an emergency orders could be redirected to companies that need them unless it's a country-wide damaging event.

Right, but power companies likely hold enough for a year's worth of natural disasters + a 10-20% cushion. Sabotage can be a lot more destructive than random failure.

I think you're basically agreeing with what I'm saying. Small scale localized disasters aren't going to take a year to repair because companies keep some repair stock on hand or have replacements in the pipeline for existing equipment. It's only when we get to disasters that threaten to completely deplete repair/reserve stocks that the 1 year wait time for new grid scale transformers becomes truly concerning.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by 1letterunixname »

After past instances and a 60 Minutes' report, it's recommended now that solid barriers surround power stations.

https://securethegrid.com/2022/02/28/60-minutes-how-secure-i...

This incident is probably the result of white suprematists, malicious teenagers, and/or crazy people.

Also, I think transformers need armor around oil fins or designs that don't require liquid cooling.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by greedo »

lolbyutuwha wrote: post #222
greedo wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These groups are already organized and coordinated. They mobbed/brigaded school board meetings in a coordinated fashion. They know who their allies are, and are now starting to act out in more violent fashion. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

>They mobbed/brigaded school board meetings in a coordinated fashion. It's a strange way to write "parents attended school board meetings".

In multiple cases, these were not parents, or didn't even have kids in the schools they were protesting. This was an organized, coordinated movement to disrupt board meetings and intimidate board members.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by shagmin »

hairofadog wrote: post #209
deanCommie wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because this was a targeted attack with the intentional goal of disrupting a drag show [0]. There is a rising alt-right extremist movement that is attempting to demonize LGBTQ and drag as pedophiles and groomers. Their methods are only getting more extreme [1]. They have very clear goals that are absolutely fall under the definition of terrorisms: They are attempting to terrorize a specific subset of civilian populat…

I’m pro drag show and anti extremism but this just seems so unlikely, doesn’t it? Didn’t they knock out the power for lots of churches and gun shops too? And according to news reports I’m seeing, they had the drag show anyway? I mean, people are crazy and do random things, so I’m not saying it’s impossible, but it just seems like it would be the dumbest way to try to make this dumb point.

I wouldn't try to rationalize the actions of these people too much.

Proud Boys confronted/harrassed/intimidated people at a drag show in a city not far east from there just recently and then some people (probably some the same people) put some effort into preventing this drag show from happening prior to this situation.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by shagmin »

bcrl wrote: post #81

Curfew seems excessive. We have had a number of 8-12 hour power outages around here and the local governments have never declared curfew. Parts of Ottawa were without power in the spring for 2 weeks after the derecho and there was no curfew.

Normally outages don't call for a curfew in the area, but in this case there was looting going on.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by nadieyninguno1 »

greedo wrote: post #253
lolbyutuwha wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>They mobbed/brigaded school board meetings in a coordinated fashion. It's a strange way to write "parents attended school board meetings".

In multiple cases, these were not parents, or didn't even have kids in the schools they were protesting. This was an organized, coordinated movement to disrupt board meetings and intimidate board members.

> In multiple cases, these were not parents, or didn't even have kids in the schools they were protesting.

What if I have a significant other and we intend on having kids next year? Or in 5 years? We don't wish to move to a new district. What if we have nieces, nephews, cousins, or family that teach in the district but are too afraid to speak out for fear of reprisal? What if we have grand children, or volunteer with children in the district?

What if I am simply being taxed to pay for public servants who know preach topics I find morally reprehensible?

What if I simply recognize that "the children are our future" and so have a both legitimate self-interest and extrinsic-interest in seeing my version of what is right and wrong being promulgated?

Just please stop - this is obvious-as-all-hell political flame-bait.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by posterboy »

Trouble_007 wrote: post #237
posterboy wrote: post #236

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Not that it matters but I looked up ringer and I beleive wringer is essentially correct but the w was lost and I'm not sure. We used to speak of substitute players when a team needed to fill a spot with randoms, what is elsewhere called "ringer", nothing about cheating. There is an Old Norse word or something that is translated "fighter" . I don't remember its spelling and could not find the entry immediately. W woul…

Hope this helps; Dead Ringer (disambiguation) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Ringer_(disambiguation) Wringer (disambiguation) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wringer_(disambiguation)

> from 19th-century horse-racing slang

There's hardly any worse "source" for etymology than that kind of jargon.

> "ringer" was a late nineteenth-century term for a duplicate, usually with implications of dishonesty, ...

Is that it?

> Hope this helps

Not in the slightest, no. If anything it confirms my bias that editors are gullible.

Which, to get back onto topic, would mean to think that the motivation was not exactly what is reported here, but something come a long way.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by greedo »

nadieyninguno1 wrote: post #256
greedo wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In multiple cases, these were not parents, or didn't even have kids in the schools they were protesting. This was an organized, coordinated movement to disrupt board meetings and intimidate board members.

> In multiple cases, these were not parents, or didn't even have kids in the schools they were protesting. What if I have a significant other and we intend on having kids next year? Or in 5 years? We don't wish to move to a new district. What if we have nieces, nephews, cousins, or family that teach in the district but are too afraid to speak out for fear of reprisal? What if we have grand children, or volunteer with…

You're defending indefensible conduct. These "protestors" were threatening board members, stating "We know where you live" etc. They weren't politely and respectfully arguing over funding disparities between sports and the math club. They were instigated by right-wing media that touts ridiculous stories of kids using litter boxes in classrooms, of trans kids assaulting others in restrooms, and other non-events.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by dopidopHN »

dontbenebby wrote: post #249
dopidopHN wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ça m’a l’air d’être de l’Allemand. Je suis rouillé mais je comprend bien. A pars le context… et la dernière phrase en fait.

Contexte ? C'est une référence à une mauvaise date de Tinder. C'est un peu mignon si vous citez des choses de mon histoire de post, c'est une cause de violence si vous citez des choses sur le disque dur, surtout si la raison pour laquelle vous essayez et ne parvenez pas à m'intimider est que vous balancez un TSSCI et une prédilection pour l'abus de drogues. Dois-je donner plus de contexte ? Je ne suis pas occupé aujo…

I feel I should respond in Spanish to continue the mindfuck that this thread is.

Dude I don’t look at people history and last time I break into a system I was 16 years old.

So yeah, I’m harmless and was mostly trying to have a more entertaining hangover.

Have a nice day :)

Édith : TSSCI? Actually I would take context on that.

Re: Emergency declared and curfew imposed following North Carolina power grid attack

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Post by nadieyninguno1 »

greedo wrote: post #258
nadieyninguno1 wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In multiple cases, these were not parents, or didn't even have kids in the schools they were protesting. What if I have a significant other and we intend on having kids next year? Or in 5 years? We don't wish to move to a new district. What if we have nieces, nephews, cousins, or family that teach in the district but are too afraid to speak out for fear of reprisal? What if we have grand children, or volunteer with…

You're defending indefensible conduct. These "protestors" were threatening board members, stating "We know where you live" etc. They weren't politely and respectfully arguing over funding disparities between sports and the math club. They were instigated by right-wing media that touts ridiculous stories of kids using litter boxes in classrooms, of trans kids assaulting others in restrooms, and other non-events.

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