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Re: Valve Introduces Proton Next

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

zamalek wrote: post #250
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #197

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I loved GoG idea, but their resistance to steam deck and linux just lost me. I play everything on the Deck now, so they literally lost me as a customer. Which makes me angry, because I find insane that my 1000 games Steam library is fully locked when i'm playing one game, but we are 4 now...

There is family library sharing: https://store.steampowered.com/sharing/

I already use family sharing. But family sharing "locks" the library of the person you are borrowing from. On top of that, if you happen to have two copies of the game (1 for me, 1 for wife), there will still be no option to choose which library to lock, ending up with potentially the library the child want to use, already locked.

I appreciate family sharing, but it has some limitations that aren't amazing.

GOG is just "you are playing that one game". Way easier.

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Post by kranke155 »

account42 wrote: post #224
kranke155 wrote: post #170

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Steam was 100% visionary. After Steam I realised everything would go online - I kept telling my dad to stop buying DVDs because I told him it would all become online and discs would be pointless. Turns out it was like 10 years too early. That just shows you how early Valve was.

Except I'm not sure you were right. There is no online video service analogous to Steam where you can buy movies and then watch them forever or even while offline. It's all just streaming with a catalogue of titles that can be removed at any time.

Yeah turns out even that didn’t happen. Actually piracy is the closest we can get to a universal service.

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Post by peatmoss »

dvt wrote: post #148
firecall wrote: post #124

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The Steam brand and mindshare is second to none in my experience. My tweener kids will preference Steam over all other platforms. They would rather buy/re-buy, or pay more for a game on Steam than use another game launcher. Their are games that are free to play with Xbox game pass, but they would rather buy and play them under Steam. They have negative views on Epic, Ubisoft and so on. Blizzard/Battle.net aren't even…

> With Steam, the brand respect they have is five-stars! It's so funny how this works. I remember when Steam came out (I was in HS) and it was extremely controversial. Everyone, and I mean everyone, hated it. "I need to start ANOTHER application to run my game?" It was slow, clunky, buggy, and basically a piece of garbage. It also started the anti-consumer aggressive software DRM trend (you basically couldn't share g…

Oh yeah, I was pissed at the time. I held off playing HL2 for years because of it. I think I remember reading about a Steam easter egg where it accepted your old Half-Life box set codes. I tried it, and was pleasantly surprised. I bought the Orange Box, and never looked back.

Even years later, they quietly added HL Alyx to my library. I’m 100% skeptical of platforms like Steam, but Steam & Valve have won my trust.

Their unflagging support for Linux is just another piece of why I won’t budge from their platform.

Re: Valve Introduces Proton Next

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Post by MattyRad »

Scramblejams wrote: post #121
UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #53

I want to buy a SteamDeck. But I don't think I have the spare hours. After work, taking care of the kids, and housework I _might_ have 1 spare hour a day to sit down with the wife. I'd rather watch something on TV with her. To have any kind of free time I have to stay up till 1am! I could bring the SteamDeck when I bring the kids to the park, but that just feels like I'm cheating the kids. I work from home. 8am-9am g…

You have decided to be an engaged parent! That's awesome. The world needs more of that. The SteamDeck is, as a wise sibling said, not for playing more games, but for playing games more. It's really excellent for gaming in very small doses as opportunities arise. Find yourself waiting for 5 minutes for someone to do something? Hit the button, pick up the game right where you left off. When you get interrupted, hit the…

This exactly, I can confirm the Steam Deck is perfect for 5-30 minute gaming jaunts. It's similar to the Nintendo Switch, but the Deck actually has a huge number of varied, high quality games- frequently at bargain prices.

Idling on the couch with my wife while the baby naps for an hour is the sweet spot, where pre-Deck I was struggling to find decent mobile game (having exhausted all the decent games on Nintendo Switch).

I'll add that finding the right game is important! One that doesn't require a lot of cognition. Personally, FTL is my go-to. I can pick it up, do a few encounters, and drop it again without losing any progress.

Re: Valve Introduces Proton Next

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Post by neurostimulant »

rob74 wrote: post #78
manchmalscott wrote: post #19

Valve's continual focus on Linux (SteamOS 1.0 was released eight years ago) is honestly incredible, Proton even sometimes works better than native Linux builds. Truly nobody else (in the gaming space) is doing it like Valve are. I saw a talk[1] from a KDE dev talking about features Valve sponsored to be added to KDE Plasma and it's things that are useful for everyone outside the context of the steam deck. The only th…

My own experience with Proton has been a bit more spotty, maybe because I tried it with some really old games that are not that well tested? Bioshock 1 crashed several times, then I got it to work with some hints from ProtonDB, Bioshock 2 worked "out of the box", Batman: Arkham City (which I bought years ago and never actually got around to playing) didn't work, and I wasn't motivated enough to fiddle with the settin…

This release added Arkham City support. You might want to check it out again.

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Post by kaba0 »

atemerev wrote: post #146
Tade0 wrote: post #127

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> How the fuck do other grownups do it? (I'm 49, and exhausted all the time) I suppose the answer is "they don't". I've found that I can't really commit to any side project any more because my time off is not consistent. Also: > 5pm-8pm doing stuff with the kids You're a better parent than me. I have such days, but I can't say I spend this much quality time with my child every day. In any case I have a friend from tw…

“One parent as the homemaker” — this looks very unfair in 2022.

If only one of them earns a salary, and it is agreed upon by both, why is it unfair? That’s a perfectly valid choice - not everyone is a careerist and if one salary is enough for the family it is a really healthy choice. This “life is about work mentality” is honestly, harmful.

Re: Valve Introduces Proton Next

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Post by Scramblejams »

MattyRad wrote: post #254
Scramblejams wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have decided to be an engaged parent! That's awesome. The world needs more of that. The SteamDeck is, as a wise sibling said, not for playing more games, but for playing games more. It's really excellent for gaming in very small doses as opportunities arise. Find yourself waiting for 5 minutes for someone to do something? Hit the button, pick up the game right where you left off. When you get interrupted, hit the…

This exactly, I can confirm the Steam Deck is perfect for 5-30 minute gaming jaunts. It's similar to the Nintendo Switch, but the Deck actually has a huge number of varied, high quality games- frequently at bargain prices. Idling on the couch with my wife while the baby naps for an hour is the sweet spot, where pre-Deck I was struggling to find decent mobile game (having exhausted all the decent games on Nintendo Swi…

Agreed, Trials Evolution[0] is my go-to. Ubisoft's launcher is a hassle and it gets a little weird after a suspend (it thinks it's lost the internet connection, so it saves your medals earned but your track times are saved in an off-line profile), but it's terrific for time-constrained play. And it's currently 75% off...

[0] https://store.steampowered.com/app/220160/Trials_Evolution_G...

Re: Valve Introduces Proton Next

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Post by atemerev »

Tade0 wrote: post #242
atemerev wrote: post #146

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“One parent as the homemaker” — this looks very unfair in 2022.

IIRC this appears to still be the standard in e.g. Switzerland. Expensive (2-3k CHF per month) daycare only incentives this further.

I live in Switzerland. It is “standard” in some of the conservative German-speaking cantons (though things are changing even there), but not here in Geneva.

Domestic labor is hard and thankless. It is very unfair to pile it up on a single person (in nearly every case a woman). Both spouses need to do their fair share.

Re: Valve Introduces Proton Next

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Post by atemerev »

kaba0 wrote: post #256
atemerev wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“One parent as the homemaker” — this looks very unfair in 2022.

If only one of them earns a salary, and it is agreed upon by both, why is it unfair? That’s a perfectly valid choice - not everyone is a careerist and if one salary is enough for the family it is a really healthy choice. This “life is about work mentality” is honestly, harmful.

Doing chores at home is no less hard than working at office, and much more thankless activity. Both me and my wife much prefer to do anything else than domestic labor, including actual work. So, it is quite unfair to ask only one of us to do all this.
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