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Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by matt-attack »

rurp wrote: post #126
AniseAbyss wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The police in my country wouldn't even bother to check, they have rapists and drug dealers to deal with.

Yeah I'm baffled by all of the comments saying that this is great as an anti-theft feature. I don't know where people live that that's the case, but I sure as heck have never known police in the US to give a damn about $1000 property crimes. They don't care about $20000 home robberies and car thefts, even with strong video or other evidence. I can't imagine they're going to start chasing down criminals to get a used…

I've had an iPhone stolen twice (both times it was my wife's actually). And both times I've recovered it using Find My. Honestly, it didn't even occur to me to involve the police. I just fired up the Find My app as soon as she told me the phone was missing, and I hunted it down. Confrontations ensued on both occasions, but nothing too serious.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by fastball »

zzyzxd wrote: post #59

To use this feature, you have to turn on Find My Network in settings (it is on by default), turning it on also means the device will report other nearby Find My devices like AirTags. I like to have my phone findable after power off, but I am still not sure whether I want my phone to report other devices.

So... you want to get the benefits of Find My without actually giving back to the network?

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by kevinventullo »

fastball wrote: post #250
kevinventullo wrote: post #99

“You think you really know what's going on? They passing laws where they can run up in your own home Cameras on your laptop, TV and your iPhone The battery don't come out, that means it's always on” - B.o.B., “Paper Route”, 2013 One might call him a conspiracy theory rapper. He once got in a Twitter feud with Neil deGrasse Tyson on whether the earth was flat.

He is literally a flat-earther. Saying he "might" be a conspiracy theorist is giving him way more leeway than deserved.

Definitely. What I meant is that one might label his genre as “conspiracy theory rap”.

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Post by Yaggo »

david_allison wrote: post #164
rurp wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I'm baffled by all of the comments saying that this is great as an anti-theft feature. I don't know where people live that that's the case, but I sure as heck have never known police in the US to give a damn about $1000 property crimes. They don't care about $20000 home robberies and car thefts, even with strong video or other evidence. I can't imagine they're going to start chasing down criminals to get a used…

In my country, the police came to my house when I dropped my wallet. I strongly believe "Find My iPhone" has made iPhones significantly less valuable on the resale market and will have reduced thefts

> In my country

I often see people here referring to their country without mentioning the actual country, i.e. they hide the interesting detail, which I find weird. Why not to write "in Iceland..." instead? Or is it a privacy thing or just some kind of modesty?

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Post by kccqzy »

gnicholas wrote: post #237
todd3834 wrote: post #22

This article has me wondering if I’ve ever turned my phone off besides restarting it or the battery died. I’m sure I have but I bet it is very uncommon. That being said, if it were off and lost, this feature would be amazing. Apple is very transparent about it and also allows you to disable it as far as I remember. The OP has a follow up tweet that iOS 15 made their phone hot during charging. Kind of feels like they…

I would bet that a lot of owners of newer iPhones don't even know how to turn them off. It used to just require holding down the sleep/power button and then swiping across the screen. On newer iPhones, you have to (in order): hold down one of the volume buttons, then hold down the sleep/power button, then swipe across the screen. I honestly didn't know this until I just googled it. Apparently what I've been doing (vo…

I just do "Settings > General > Shutdown" instead of remembering the button combinations. It also appears in the search results when you do a Spotlight search for "shut" from the Home Screen.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by [deleted] »

fsckboy wrote: post #149
chewmieser wrote: post #8

Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little…

> They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you slightly tangential, I hate being informed of things when I try to do them. I'm in a hurry, I don't want to read all about something now. I wish the dialogs had an "email this to me, willya?" selection, with an opportunity to decide the long term setting that I want.

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Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by gfodor »

chewmieser wrote: post #8

Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little…

If someone farts, do you react differently if they give you a heads up during release?

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Post by throwaway744678 »

gfodor wrote: post #257
chewmieser wrote: post #8

Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little…

If someone farts, do you react differently if they give you a heads up during release?

That is the perfectest analogy. Thank you, dear sir (madam)!

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Post by BugWatch »

gfodor wrote: post #257
chewmieser wrote: post #8

Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little…

If someone farts, do you react differently if they give you a heads up during release?

I'll have to write this one down, right next to "If your friend jumps off a cliff, do you too?". I'd call this category "the motherisms". :)

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by aksss »

wyattpeak wrote: post #184
lolsal wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You made a decision before you had all the information, but you're so busy you don't want to reconsider your decision after learning new information?

This sounds an awful lot like defences of hundred page EULAs: "So you made a decision not to read it...". No, it was intentionally designed in a way which discourages reading. In the case of this warning, it's possible that it was unintentionally designed in a way which discourages reading, but regardless the fault lies, at least in part, with the design.

It's all about timing. My computer and phone are work tools, and I can't stand the things they do at an OS and app level that get in the way of me doing my work, because most often when I do it, I'm in a really big hurry to get it done. A simple dismissible notice of "hey we need to talk later about some stuff" and an easy place to view that queue would go a long way to improving this state of affairs.
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