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Re: Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook

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Post by _-david-_ »

dylan-m wrote: post #137
Red_Tarsius wrote: post #112

>The Capitol Attack Where was this rhetoric when Antifa and BLM burned and looted for months with the blessings of all corporations and the mainstream media? Surely the Capitol Hill has an insurance policy? Or does that moronic point only apply to the common folk? Susan Rosenberg literally bombed the Capitol in 1983 and now serves as vice chair of the board of directors of Thousand Currents, a " non-profit foundation…

- The BLM movement is, while poorly framed and easily co-opted by other people, about genuine problems with policing in the United States. Problems that are backed up with verifiable facts rather than scummy used car salesmen and the Inventor of Email™. - The BLM movement, while the source of many large large scale protests (several of which turned into riots and outstayed their welcome) never, at any point, even pre…

A couple cops were killed by blm rioters. Sure they weren't capital police but they were still police. ACAB was all over Facebook and Twitter which at a minimum raised the temperature and hatred towards cops.

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Post by edbob »

BoorishBears wrote: post #235
edbob wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From your own source: > Numerous Secret Service agents were injured, fires set by rioters blazed near the White House and authorities were searching for car bombs > The official initially put the number of agents injured at over 50, but that may have referred to the weekend toll; the Secret Service has since said the number injured on Sunday was 14. 50 people injured is a serious attack. It's interesting that leftist…

You dodged the question with expert precision and ignored your very dishonest insinuation that this wasn't treated as a big deal. I linked multiple sources precisely to show it's your own fault you didn't know. No one hid or censored it.: > Does that sound like the scene at the Capitol where Congresspeople were hidden behind a makeshift barricade while an officer was forced to shoot a woman dead literal steps away fr…

I think you got me confused with someone else. I don't have any other comments in this thread.

How can you honestly say "Imagine trying to paint being against political violence as a partisan issue." while doing absolutely everything you can to minimize and excuse left-wing violence?

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Post by multjoy »

trident5000 wrote: post #246
multjoy wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ‘Camp Auschwitz’ hoody and the “6MWE” (6 million Jews wasn’t enough) not enough of a signpost for you?

Continuing to prove my point. "wide brushes of their opposing views" Thinking everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi because you saw a a guy with a t-shirt is something stupid people do.

Someone who thinks that the holocaust didn’t go far enough is, literally, a nazi.

The fact that this is something you’re in a state of active denial about is a ‘you’ problem, not a ‘me’ problem.

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Post by _-david-_ »

betterunix2 wrote: post #135
cccc4all wrote: post #55

The unequal treatment is the primary issue with the Parler deplatforming. Facebook and Twitter and Google has hosted much more and much worse content, from all sides. Yet, they are protected by the central authorities and mainstream popular media. Facebook, Twitter and Google should all be deplatformed for equal treatment under mob rules.

Facebook, Twitter, and Google have not tried to take a stand against moderation; the worst you can say is that they still need to improve their moderation policies and techniques. Parler was created as a protest against the moderation that happens on other platforms, to be a place where the people who are too extreme for Facebook etc. can communicate, recruit, and so forth. Likewise with Gab, which was created in res…

Parler had some moderation, but had far fewer rules than other platforms. They had rules against direct calls of violence for example. They also appear to have been slower at enforcing their rules, possibly due to the smaller team involved.

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Post by Pfhreak »

throwawaygulf wrote: post #247
Pfhreak wrote: post #229

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> Isn't the east precinct a government building? Yes, but your framing isn't genuine. Some protestors did wander into an abandoned building. I'm not sure whether any of them were armed. That's a far cry from "Armed protestors took over a government building." > Raz the Warlord of CHAZ giving out assault rifles: Again, your framing is clearly flamebait. I obviously don't deny that Raz was there, and that there appears…

Stoo spreading fake news. >The first shooting in the protests was by someone driving into a crowd who claimed to have a brother who worked in the east precinct. Wrong. The first shooting came after an argument between leftists escalated. No vehicle involved. >The second shooting does not have a clear connection to the protest occupants. The Police chose not to help the shooting victim (and the reason for the shooting…

I went through the Wikipedia page the parent posted and summarized them. The first shooting that I saw was the man who drove a vehicle into a crowd. The crowd attempted to stop him, and he shot a protestor. Go read the wiki page and the sources it links yourself.

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Post by trident5000 »

multjoy wrote: post #253
trident5000 wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Continuing to prove my point. "wide brushes of their opposing views" Thinking everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi because you saw a a guy with a t-shirt is something stupid people do.

Someone who thinks that the holocaust didn’t go far enough is, literally, a nazi. The fact that this is something you’re in a state of active denial about is a ‘you’ problem, not a ‘me’ problem.

Talking about some remote person or group of people and pretending it represents a nonexistent large population is insanity. There have always been fringe groups on both sides. The issue at hand is you have no perspective after being gaslit and think everyone you disagree with is a "nazi".

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Post by ceejayoz »

trident5000 wrote: post #106
ceejayoz wrote: post #99

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Where is this $20B number coming from? It doesn't appear to reflect reality. https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a4...

I stand corrected and edited. Its still a non trivial amount and apparently "most expensive riot in history" according to your source.

There's some apples to oranges going on there.

You'll see in the top ten list several listings in April 1968, when Martin Luther King was assassinated. Counting these (and the many, many other cities they took place in in 1968) separately, while lumping together "protests that took place in 140 U.S. cities this spring", is fairly hard to justify.

You should also consider what else your preferred news sources may have blown out by a similarly inaccurate 10-20x amount about the BLM protests.

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Post by [deleted] »

dylan-m wrote: post #137
Red_Tarsius wrote: post #112

>The Capitol Attack Where was this rhetoric when Antifa and BLM burned and looted for months with the blessings of all corporations and the mainstream media? Surely the Capitol Hill has an insurance policy? Or does that moronic point only apply to the common folk? Susan Rosenberg literally bombed the Capitol in 1983 and now serves as vice chair of the board of directors of Thousand Currents, a " non-profit foundation…

- The BLM movement is, while poorly framed and easily co-opted by other people, about genuine problems with policing in the United States. Problems that are backed up with verifiable facts rather than scummy used car salesmen and the Inventor of Email™. - The BLM movement, while the source of many large large scale protests (several of which turned into riots and outstayed their welcome) never, at any point, even pre…

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

a-posteriori wrote: post #130
_r0fz wrote: post #121

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idk how to tell you this in a way you'll listen to but doing things for good reasons is good and doing them for bad reasons is bad.

Violence is categorically bad, regardless of what the intentions are. Referring to violence as "doing things" purposely avoids recognizing this.

If we're saying all violence is categorically bad, I guess you'll want to abolish the military and the police, too, right?

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Post by j_walter »

Pfhreak wrote: post #216
loveistheanswer wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do citizens lives matter less than politicians lives?

Of course not. But institutions matter, and shutting down a governing body through threats of violence has consequences far beyond just the immediate politician's lives.

Shutting down a judicial governing body through nightly attacks for month should also have consequences...but it didn't. I literally watched it happen for months on end with little repercussions by local law enforcement (because they were restricted by the mayor).

What happens when you take over multiple city blocks for a few weeks and don't allow any government agencies to do their jobs? That should also have reprecussions...but it didn't.

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