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Consultant32452 wrote: post #169
Dahoon wrote: post #157

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How is that different from using a service in the states where the NSA spies on everything?

In China if you're discovered to have the wrong religion they'll put you in a concentration camp where they may or may not murder you and sell your parts. Don't worry about your family, they'll assign a rapist to your wife who will sleep in bed with her and reeducate your family. There's literally a WWII scale Holocaust going on in China right now. You have a lot of nerve asking "what's the difference?"

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Post by lookACamel »

nmfisher wrote: post #237
whoevercares wrote: post #232

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A bit Survivor bias? Recent six years about half of my friends went back. I’m biased as well since many of them got green card and/or coming from Tier-1 city

As I admitted, it's purely anecdotal - I'm not denying that there are a lot of Chinese who do in fact return. But net migration is still negative, meaning there's more people leaving China than returning. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/CHN/china/net-migratio... . I'm not sure how that figure is calculated, but I also wonder if it under-represents "pseudo-migrants" who claim to be living/holidaying temporarily…

China literally has a billion more humans than the US.

Is it really "freedom of expression" they want or just the lack of competition and the increase in living space?

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Post by theseadroid »

kbaker wrote: post #246
theseadroid wrote: post #205

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Please dont break my sentence half way. Western media has been doing that and they wonder why the Chinese ppl are not receptive of their messages or ideas. I feel it's too impolite so I will not follow up on the rest. Sorry.

I don't think any re-wording of your statement was intended by breaking up your sentence, it is pretty common to abbreviate when quoting, even mid-sentence. At least I hope it was not intended... I can see that the quoted part makes it into a different statement. Personally I appreciate your insight on this topic, I feel it is difficult to have a good discussion on these sorts of topics with all the misinformation go…

Thanks. I'll try give more info on the parent comment then. First 7% of the Chinese population is like 100 million people... Considering most of them cluster in tier 1 cities (beijing, shanghai, shenzhen)[1], I'd say there's density for certain things to happen if they want.

and I wont call food safety issues local drama. Now that people noticed the air quality is improving[2], food safety is probably the no.1 issue Chinese people care. Especially milk products for babies. Many chinese emigrated for food safety as one of the important reason and most chinese buy foreign milk for their babies. Shoot me email if you'd like to talk more :)

1. China's wealth distribution is really not great. We got tier1 cities like developped countries. then there's tier2, tier3, then east rural areas, and west rural areas.

2. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-pollutuion-beijing/...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/beijing-ai...

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Post by dlivingston »

Dahoon wrote: post #157
malka wrote: post #146

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> weechat The sweet pleasure of being spied upon by the CCP ?

How is that different from using a service in the states where the NSA spies on everything?

A key difference is that PRISM was a scandal, a massive stain on the reputation of the NSA, and behavior that the majority of Americans condemned and will roundly condemn again if exposed. Can the same be said about China on such state surveillance behavior?

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On an aside, but related to the broader conversation, the YouTube channel AsianBoss regularly visits China and conducts very revealing interviews with Chinese people on similar topics to those discussed in this thread: https://youtu.be/sTzgE1nvxZs

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Post by [deleted] »

nsl73 wrote: post #139
thedrbrian wrote: post #126

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>Chinese people who study abroad are more often confused by the things missing in the west than they are liberated in the way you describe, in my experience. As someone who has never been to China could you list some things the West is missing?

Public transportation, affordable healthcare, & weechat are all things that are significantly better in China. — An American that spent a few weeks in China.

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Post by philliphaydon »

HeavenFox wrote: post #192
esrauch wrote: post #144

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The healthcare thing doesn't jive with what I've heard from my native Chinese friends; I've heard if you have the right connections (and by association, wealth) you can get exactly what you need, but without that you can't get anything.

On the contrary, I believe most people will be better off with the Chinese healthcare system than the U.S. one, because nobody go bankrupt from going to the doctor. Office visit cost at most $20 - that's without insurance. Every thing has a fixed price, so you will never get a surprise bill afterwards. If you insist on visiting the best doctor in the field, wait time can be long; but otherwise you can walk into the h…

I see on the internet, especially on reddit, where there's praise for healthcare in china. But I've never spoke to a person from china who likes it. But I've heard lots of horror stories.

I wouldn't want to end up in hospital in the US or china. Think the only countries I would feel at ease in are Singapore and Taiwan.

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Post by pyuser583 »

When was the last time Hollywood made a major movie about the Tiennamen Square protests? Or the Chinese war against Tibetan autonomy?

Notice how in Top Gun 2, the Taiwanese regalia had been removed.

American elites have no problem censoring American citizens (in America) to appease Chinese elites.

This has been going on for a very long time. What’s different is people are realizing it.

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Post by whoevercares »

theseadroid wrote: post #235
whoevercares wrote: post #230

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Too much risks in US to do so right now in this climate. I just want to pay my taxes and remain a good keyboard man with slightly different opinions. See Chineses self censored.

whenever I see misinformation my blood boils. I thought moving out of China would help my anger management. But alas here we are. I have been wondering instead of wasting time telling HN or any community what China is like, maybe there's something I can do to help China become a better place where I wanna live in future, no matter how small I can contribute. Many westerners (government bodies excluded) are good inten…

It’s close to impossible to stop misinformation given most westerners Have a much higher trust level of their media E.g Fox News reporting hospitals are getting paid to attribute deaths to Covid-19 regardless of the cause. I’m sure many on the right-wing actually believes it. And also this forum is of western mainstream view and Values so bias is expected. dang teaches a good lesson in how to live here so nowadays I rarely get triggered

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

ma2rten wrote: post #248
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #188

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> WeChat translate CN-EN is miles ahead of Google. That's interesting! At the same time, deepl.com is also miles ahead of Google, so I'm not all that impressed by Google Translate anymore. (Deepl itself is impressive is heck!)

Are you sure about that? I think DeepL was ahead for a brief time after it was released, but Google Translate has caught up.

For me it's absolutely night and day, the translations produced by Deepl feel like they could have been written by a real person. That real person wouldn't be a particularly good writer, but, still, it's highly readable.

I could see myself reading a whole book through Deepl if I had a reason.

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