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Post by Dahoon »

pnw_hazor wrote: post #130
amznthrwaway wrote: post #17

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I understand that many racists want it to be morally wrong to do business with China, but I don't believe it's that simple. Americans who've never even visited China feel free to moralize about how what Chinese people really want is a choice between two shitty parties, just how it is in America. But many Chinese look at America and think it's a terribly mismanaged country that used to be great, and is falling further…

The instability of the US government is by design: no Presidents' for life; single party-rule is discouraged; three co-equal branches of government; sovereign states; and so on. I, like many Americans, will always prefer democratic elections, rule of law, due process, right to bears arms in self defense, and free speech over government imposed "stability" any day.

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Post by eigenvector »

nsl73 wrote: post #139
thedrbrian wrote: post #126

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>Chinese people who study abroad are more often confused by the things missing in the west than they are liberated in the way you describe, in my experience. As someone who has never been to China could you list some things the West is missing?

Public transportation, affordable healthcare, & weechat are all things that are significantly better in China. — An American that spent a few weeks in China.

Parent comment said 'the West', not America.

Public transportation and affordable healthcare are the norm in most highly developed Western democracies such as the UK, France, Sweden, etc.

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Post by runawaybottle »

bobthepanda wrote: post #20
reedwolf wrote: post #16

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It seems really random that the Chinese are so into NBA. What next, Greeks being really into American gangsta rap music?

Yao Ming was probably one of the first Chinese players of a foreign sport in a foreign league, and the NBA was very happy to promote this connection.

Yao Ming was also one of the elite centers in the NBA during his prime (just behind Shaq). A 7’6 tall guy that could hit a jumper and make all his free throws (couldn’t foul him in the paint, or he’d make you pay). Injuries did him in, but he was nothing short of amazing even if he didn’t come from China.

Quick wiki research:

There have been regular Houston Rockets games that had over 200 million viewers from China. The super bowl has about 100 million in comparison.

At the scale we’re talking about, this will become a recurring issue across many industries as you simply can’t deny the power of the Chinese market.

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Post by ptx »

bllguo wrote: post #108
whoevercares wrote: post #101

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While I think your point is mostly valid and benign, Your impression of China seems outdated and tone might seem a bit arrogant to a native Chinese. Chinese people recognize the gap and appreciate the excellence in their daily life. The CCP rarely censored in the way you described(e.g. it never says China’s education/manufacturing is the best, instead they call out the remaining gap constantly). As a matter of fact,…

yes, seconded. China isn't North Korea or the USSR. Don't take for granted that the West is "better", at this point China is looking over and saying "prove it" Can you blame Chinese citizens for preferring the stability and prosperity of their own regime, when they have the current disarray of American democracy to compare to? Frankly I would argue that the Chinese have a much better understanding of the US than the…

> preferring the stability and prosperity of their own regime

That's a bit of an unwarranted assumption. Even hinting that you have a different preference or questioning the reports of stability and prosperity (even privately among friends on WeChat, which is monitored and censored) can get you invited for a nice cup of tea with the local police.

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Post by stestagg »

theseadroid wrote: post #109
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #83

Here's another angle. The increasing censorship within China leaves less and less opportunity for the greater Chinese population to learn about the capabilities of other countries. A few examples of excellence that are still available to Chinese citizens are the NBA, Apple products, US education and Tesla cars. Most nations export excellence of some type to China. Having these examples in their hands or on their scre…

>The increasing censorship within China leaves less and less opportunity for the greater Chinese population to learn about the capabilities of other countries. Most of my friends back in China, especially devs, use VPN daily. Many Chinese learn English via English media or TV shows. check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-s... >The CCP news tells me how terrible the USA is, yet, the…

” Try learn a bit Mandarin if you could or at least talk to Chinese ppl living around you”

If I DM you my address, could you send some guys round to invite/escort me to one of your famous education centres. There I’ll be able to learn Mandarin and how great the party is. I’m not muslim or Tibetan, but you could make an exception?

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Post by yumraj »

_oqcu wrote: post #137
whoevercares wrote: post #134

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Half joke/half serious: 1. Food(any objection?) 2. Public transportation: high speed rail road 3. Huge and fancy malls: USA is behind believe it or not 4. E-payment & WeChat: Chinese people think differently. 5. Food delivery and all kinds of half-day delivery 6. Free of Racism: invisible ceiling 7. Cultural recreational activities that you don’t understand 8. Crowded.

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And Tibetan subjugation.

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Post by yumraj »

Symbiote wrote: post #124
throwaway2474 wrote: post #117

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Your comment is about 15 years out of date. There isn’t much that is “excellent beyond what is available” in China anymore. This type of thinking is why western foreign policy continues to get China totally wrong. Chinese people who study abroad are more often confused by the things missing in the west than they are liberated in the way you describe, in my experience.

What is missing in the west?

Fear of being taken to a dark hole somewhere for making fun of the ruling junta, especially the top boss AKA the President/Chairman. /s

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Post by i_am_proteus »

elliekelly wrote: post #150
esrauch wrote: post #144

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The healthcare thing doesn't jive with what I've heard from my native Chinese friends; I've heard if you have the right connections (and by association, wealth) you can get exactly what you need, but without that you can't get anything.

I can’t speak to healthcare generally but one of my college roommates was from China and she just could not wrap her head around the politicization of birth control in the US. I remember her asking us if Americans thought it was dangerous or addictive because she couldn’t understand why it was so controversial that the affordable care act required birth control to be covered.

The PRC perspective on birth control, specifically, is unique, since the CCP forced birth control and abortion on its population for decades as part of the "one child" policy.[0]

[0]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

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Post by Consultant32452 »

Dahoon wrote: post #157
malka wrote: post #146

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> weechat The sweet pleasure of being spied upon by the CCP ?

How is that different from using a service in the states where the NSA spies on everything?

In China if you're discovered to have the wrong religion they'll put you in a concentration camp where they may or may not murder you and sell your parts. Don't worry about your family, they'll assign a rapist to your wife who will sleep in bed with her and reeducate your family.

There's literally a WWII scale Holocaust going on in China right now. You have a lot of nerve asking "what's the difference?"

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