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Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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> Not sure what they could do besides asking for card over the phone They could use a website or an app and accept secure payments there - that was the whole point of this thread from the start.

My whole point is not everything needs an app. Phoning in to-go orders is one of those things that I would rather interact with a human with. There are too many ways automated ordering goes wrong and exactly 0 ways to fix it.

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Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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I agree 100% with you. I think the expectations of the parent comment are very misplaced. Restaurant owners are usually not tech people, nor can many of them afford to hire tech people. To expect all restaurants to pay exorbitant amounts of money setup/ maintain online ordering systems is not realistic. Also, I have never had a restaurant ask me for a card over the phone. Order times are a rough guess based on curren…

> To be fair, I have been surprised many times how difficult it can be to find an online menu for places I like in my area. Lots of places might not even have a website, but in these cases, I actually use GrubHub and the like to read the menus only. Don't. Do. This. Grubhub menus are often incomplete (and we all know the prices are wrong). I just checked a nearby restaurant I often frequent and the items I usually bu…

I’ve tried the menus on Google maps as well, but found them to be even more inaccurate than various delivery services. I assume if a restaurant maintains their google presence they can edit their menu by hand but this seems to be rare. Otherwise, I’m pretty sure I read somewhere these ‘menus’ are auto-generated by ML algorithms based on the photos of food people post.

Which actually, is pretty impressive when you think about it. It’s not worthless. Even if not totally accurate, it will give you a rough idea of the most popular dishes!

Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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Even worse than just the misleading practices - we've been unable to connect through these proxied phone numbers at all. We just get an out of service tone. Both at&t and T-Mobile. I have been assuming it's because too many people are calling. Next time I pickup, I'll ask for a direct line.

Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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>you have to bother a person who is probably already extremely busy and overworked to clarify the menu. That is built into the price of the food you ordering. You aren't bothering someone. You're giving them a job.

Whether or not it’s their job, one can still feel bad about doing it. When I worked retail, if we didn’t have something in stock (after looking), I’d apologize. Not because it’s my fault, but because I felt bad. It’s the reason people don’t ask workers at retail stores for help; they (most of the time) don’t want to bother someone even though it’s their job.

I never invalidated someone's feelings. I merely stated that the logic they are using to validate their own feelings is flawed. It's very possible to change the frame of your mind through the language you use. If you remove the negative thoughts of "bothing" someone when they are merely trying to make ends meet, your feelings might change. In fact, by not bothering them, you may be giving their boss fuel for them to NOT have a job.

Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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Please consider clicking through to the link before commenting. You obviously did not do that. There's also accommodations for different disabilities, like the Deaf and hard of hearing via sign language. https://www.federalrelay.us/ip-relay.html >IP Relay uses an Internet connection, a computer or mobile device with a web browser and a Communication Assistant (CA) . An IP user types what they want to say, the CA rela…

> Please consider clicking through to the link before commenting. You obviously did not do that. Absolutely uncalled for. I did click through and read the whole article. I was actually unaware of TTY until reading it and did some research into it before coming to the conclusion that it was not something I needed to invest time into. More importantly, added another person and an internet or phone connection into the l…

Please read into the federal program. It's literally chat, no special TTY hardware required. You still haven't read the page I linked to.

>My personal experience hasn't really needed much in the way of intervention. It just makes phone calls more of a hassle than the average person.

It sounds like you're in denial of your disability or you're just lying. I suggest therapy either way to help cope with your condition.

Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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> Please consider clicking through to the link before commenting. You obviously did not do that. Absolutely uncalled for. I did click through and read the whole article. I was actually unaware of TTY until reading it and did some research into it before coming to the conclusion that it was not something I needed to invest time into. More importantly, added another person and an internet or phone connection into the l…

Please read into the federal program. It's literally chat, no special TTY hardware required. You still haven't read the page I linked to. >My personal experience hasn't really needed much in the way of intervention. It just makes phone calls more of a hassle than the average person. It sounds like you're in denial of your disability or you're just lying. I suggest therapy either way to help cope with your condition.

> It sounds like you're in denial of your disability or you're just lying.

I could talk about what IP relay actually is (it's definitely more than "just chat"), my experience on the other side of it as a public-facing city-government worker, how video relay services won't work for me because I don't know sign language (something I mentioned in my previous comment), but I'm going to sidestep this entire conversation.

Insults to my mental stability and accusations of lying are far below the usual level of discourse I enjoy on HN, and I'm going to freely admit that, after some personal things and what's happening with the world at large, I got more upset than I'd like seeing that. So, I'm just going to walk away. I wish I could discuss my experiences more but I don't feel like a civil discussion can be had.

Re: People think they're calling restaurants directly but Grubhub is getting a fee

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Its astonishing delivery services have the depravity to dupe customers trying to help a hurting industry. If you live in NYC or SF, I built a browser extension that will help you place delivery orders directly with local restaurants. It currently compares the price of your delivery across all delivery services, and within the next week, will link you to local restaurant websites if one is available. For those interes…

This is awesome. Please provide a box to signup for email updates - I'd like to find out if you ever release a Firefox version.
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