Chinese military entering Shenzen, just across the border with Hong Kong

Post by donaldknuth123 » Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 2:38 PM UTC

dragonsh wrote: post #215

Zenbit_UX wrote: post #178

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It's been almost 4 weeks of regular HN posting since you've made a comment that wasn't politically charged or that mentions China. What gives, this doesn't seem like a normal account.

The whole comment mentions China. I believe this is another one of those fake news campaign running across Hong Kong as mentioned in news. HN is not fake news medium but is being made to generate fake news with conflated facts. Been on HN since it's birth, not fake accounts like yours or people downvoting critical comments with facts. Hopefully some moderator on HN reviews these comments for facts not conflated facts…

Post by sa-mao » Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 2:39 PM UTC

novaleaf wrote: post #236

alangibson wrote: post #208

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When I read statements like this, I always think of a quote by Noam Chomsky: "Violence usually works."

History proves this. Only modern democracies don't have the stomach for it.

Post by wbl » Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 2:42 PM UTC

empath75 wrote: post #161

hjanssen wrote: post #16

This is really bad and definitely triggers memorys of the Tiananmen massacre. I'm very interested how the rest of the world is going to react to these developments considering the position of China only got stronger since the Tinanmen situation. I recognized that the reaction of e.g. Germany was considerably weaker to the HK protests than e.g. the Arab Spring protests, but I guess we just have to wait and see. Edit:…

I honestly don’t think that China will do anything like that again. Because of how their economy is so intertwined with the rest of the world, they can’t afford another brutal crackdown. I am sure they will go in, but I’m also sure they have more sophisticated crowd control methods available to them.

Post by mikeash » Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 2:43 PM UTC

chewz wrote: post #242

StreamBright wrote: post #232

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This is a bit far fetched. Hongkong is part of China, it has been part of it for a long time. UK rule was a blip in that and it was a 99 years lease anyways. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Hong_Kong

Still it makes me a little angry, we have 8 milion nice, young pro-democratic protesters in Hong-Kong facing communist tanks and we aren't even going to drop a single rocket on Beijing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement

Post by consp » Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 2:43 PM UTC

namelosw wrote: post #218

mymythisisthis wrote: post #95

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China is where the USA was in the 1950s; lots of industrial growth but lots of pollutions, a population happy about all the new wealth and not willing to protest.

China has a different culture. One reason that western people having protesting culture because of historically authoritarians are less powerful and less cruel than the eastern ones. Take the 'nine familial exterminations'[0] as an example. It will most likely become a totally different cyberpunk society, with modern cities and massive surveillance coexist, instead of being another US.