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Car Owners Should Control Data Collected by Cars

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I assume you don't use a smartphone, for the sake of consistency. It's really hard for me to draw a distinction between home voice assistants that you can activate via a voice command and smartphones that you can activate via a voice command.

I can't activate my smartphone with a voice command. And even if I could, I firewall everything off by default anyway.

How do you firewall your phone? What OS?

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unrelated to this particular article, but it seems nytimes coverage is tending more and more towards tech Luddite category these days. It is one thing to inform the readers but they seem to be bent on spreading fear about all things tech.

Tech nowadays evokes fear all by itself.

From drones to cellphones to Smart TVs to cars, it's all big brother now.

Orwell could only dream about the things that are possible, and our governments certainly don't seem to be fighting for the little guy who wants to live a private life.

/r/aBoringDystopia

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post #101

unrelated to this particular article, but it seems nytimes coverage is tending more and more towards tech Luddite category these days. It is one thing to inform the readers but they seem to be bent on spreading fear about all things tech.

This is exactly what you should expect when tech companies get to run roughshod over any regulations or consumer protections. This isn't fear mongering against technology. This is bringing up absolute points about corporations completely out of control. I mean, for all that is good, the phone companies are still fighting the government on why it is good they can sell our cellphone/location data to whoever they want.

> tech companies get to run roughshod over any regulations or consumer protections.

Lol, what consumer protections?

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Why? Why not have that data go someplace it could do real good in informing better safety systems, better traffic management and so on. Privacy is a spectrum, I am getting kinda tired how people think data about them is "theirs". In some cases maybe it should be, in other cases, it should not be. Now maybe you should have a right to see it, download it, and remove identifying markers but I am so tired of this extreme…

> I am so tired of this extreme privacy movement

You are insane, we have so much less privacy nowadays than at any time in history.

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post #109
post #46

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1) Huh, what makes you believe I own Tesla - maybe that is not what you're implying but kinda confused by your wording. 2) Still, thanks for pointing that out. Now, I'm even less inclined to buy a Tesla. 3) Wonder what happens in private sale of used Tesla, since the second owner never agreed to such terms, or did they? (Depends on when these terms are presented to them). Could lead to a class action, just saying...…

3) Wonder what happens in private sale of used Tesla, since the second owner never agreed to such terms, or did they? (Depends on when these terms are presented to them). Could lead to a class action, just saying... This is my thought exactly, and not just for Tesla. The original purchaser agreed to the privacy policy, but if the original purchaser goes on to sell that vehicle in a private transaction, then the secon…

> Also, since private sales are just that - private - how does the manufacturer know who the data is now about?

They'll know when you need to pay the bills for their spying network and because you are forced to go to them to get the car serviced.

A Tesla without Tesla dealerships is a brick. I'm super curious how much those used Teslas will be worth in 10 years time.

Also they can just check all that GPS data they're collecting.

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post #116

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Yes, it is a presumption, that doesn't mean it might not be something to think about and consider? I don't think I need to explain the extreme privacy view, it is alive and well in this community.

It's not extreme, it's what most people have had for millennia. New technology is deanonymizing public space, invasions of privacy previously required great effort and expense, now they can be done trivially by accessing data on your phone, or now your car. The ramifications of this haven't become clear to you because no-one important's decided to fuck your life over yet or you live as a conformist, but for many of t…

Wow, amazingly well put. claps
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