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When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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If you can't operate legally, that doesn't mean you get to break the law, that means you stop operating.

So start having internet retailers and takeout restaurants say “we don’t serve your street because it has a bike lane” and see how the long the bike lane lasts.

Yes, that is what should happen.

More likely than getting rid of the bike lane, the laws surrounding it will be amended to allow deliveries.

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How the fuck can you expect people to drive 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and never get a fine?

The people writing, enforcing and interpreting the laws don't care if the law is unfair or impossible to reasonably comply with. That is miles outside the scope of what they do. Laws that penalize behavior that normal people frequently engage in don't get changed until the people who write the laws get bitten by them (which rarely happens for reasons outside the scope of this comment).

Including VHS and DVD rental pricacy.

http://mroche.umwblogs.org/history-of-the-vhs/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Privacy_Protection_Act

Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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the drivers are basically incentivized to break the law When a delivery company has a line item in its budget to cover parking tickets as a cost of doing business, it's already decided at the corporate level to disregard the law in favor of making a profit.

That's cute, but wrong. Even the most law-abiding delivery company is going to end up with some parking tickets, so it makes sense to budget for them. You may as well decry the budgeting for legal as saying the company wants to break the law.

> You may as well decry the budgeting for legal as saying the company wants to break the law.

The only reason to have a lawyer is because you broke the law, got it.

Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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I still don't understand why there has never been a push to hold carriers responsible for the goods they damage. Could you imagine dropping your car off to be repaired at your dealer/mechanic and being held responsible for anything they broke?

Manufacturers and retailers should push to hold UPS/FedEx/etc. responsible if damages are above a certain metric. (If they do already, it's clearly not good enough.) The 20% damage rate for this bike company is insane.

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This does not surprise me much. I think it comes down to incentives. The package handlers only have a certain amount of time per package. There are few if any consequences for being rough, and it saves time, so of course the package handlers end up being rough. This isn't the only time you see this sort of selfish behavior from delivery companies. As a cyclist I commonly encounter delivery trucks parked in the bike l…

the drivers are basically incentivized to break the law When a delivery company has a line item in its budget to cover parking tickets as a cost of doing business, it's already decided at the corporate level to disregard the law in favor of making a profit.

This is also completely planned for by the cities, who rely on that very substantial parking ticket income.

If the city wanted to make delivering parcels legally and safe for bicyclists practical, it could. But that would mean drastically lower income. So it doesn't.

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Empty his tire. Make sure it's visible to him when he comes back.

If you're suggesting that somebody slash a truck tire, you should know that's a good way to get maimed.

>slash a truck tire

Said nothing about slashing, that's permanent damage.

Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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Our hard drives for mainframes used to come with glass tube force exceeded indicators and ,'tipped in transit' markers. Five cent gizmos which meant you could refuse to accept or RMA.

You can buy these to put on your shipments. Provides a g-force indicator if the shipment has been dropped.

https://www.labelmaster.com/shop/shipping/damage-indicators/...

Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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What successful company doesn't disregard relevant laws when the returns outweigh the penalties? It's obvious, this is how businesses operate.

That's how people operate, not just businesses.

Some people, this depends hugely on the culture/upbringing of the individual. For-profit corporations on the other hand are arguably psychopathic by definition.

Re: When a Bike Company Put a TV on Its Box, Shipping Damages Went Down (2017)

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I remember how a few years ago a company paid a speeding ticket for one of the workers, and was promptly fined itself for contempt of court. Judge summoned the manager who approved the expense to court, gave him an earful, and told them in no uncertain terms that if they tried that again, contempt of court fines would go up until they stopped this. The ideas was the whole point of the ticket was to punish the driver,…

How the fuck can you expect people to drive 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and never get a fine?

How the fuck can you expect people to drive 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and never get a fine?

I drove for Uber 11 hours a day six days a week for 10 months and never got a fine.

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