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Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by ot8 »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #70
bvinc wrote: post #21

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

I knew pro-anorexia groups use slang like "your friend Ana" to hide their actions, but had to google "thinspo" and "meanspo". Thinspo (thin inspiration) is positive anorexia reinforcement, like anorexic role model pictures. Meanspo (mean inspiration) is negative anorexia reinforcement, like aphorisms demonizing fat or destructive critic. Why are young girls so vulnerable to mental disease trends? What can we do bette…

| Thinspo (thin inspiration) is positive anorexia reinforcement, like anorexic role model pictures.

Thinspo was originally "thin and sporty" (Thin+Spo) and promoted a super healthy and physically fit lifestyle and positive choices.

Over time it has been co-opted by those with deeply negative body image issues, and those with anorexia fetishes.

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Post by cm2012 »

noobermin wrote: post #122
village-idiot wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of people over-estimate the resilience of the human emotional state, especially their own. Time and time again we see regular functioning adults get sucked into objectively insane or self-harmful communities, be it the above phenomenon or 4chan crap like QAnon.

How many people follow QAnon or 4chan nonsense? You're over weighting a sheer minority of people who probably have other issues in their lives as for why they chase down conspiracy rabbit holes.

QAnon stuff gets millions of shares on Facebook every week. It's nuts and not a tiny slice of people. Ballpark 20% of republican voters at the very least believe in this stuff.

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Post by wmeredith »

rajacombinator wrote: post #98
LeeCyriaca wrote: post #68

there are a lot of jokes being made along the lines of "there goes their userbase" but for me personally this is a huge loss. especially for those of us who have certain kinks, Tumblr to this day has been the only place to ever exist where women could safely express their sexuality. it allowed us to meet like-minded people, it allowed us to break the taboo and it ended the isolation that many of us felt. Tumblrs main…

This is the new reality of the internet, best get used to it. Free speech is dead.

What an ignorant comment. This isn't a free speech issue. The government isn't censoring down Tumblr. Its owners are.

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Post by dvtrn »

village-idiot wrote: post #244
dvtrn wrote: post #180

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optimize for engagement This to me seems like it's the key to all of this, or at least a portion of it that really shouldn't be ignored. As I shared, if my ex had other ongoing issues under the surface, they were never presented and she did a great job keeping the visible symptoms from manifesting for the better part of three years. Maybe she didn't realize they were there herself, hard to blame anyone for that. It d…

Optimization for engagement is actually quite scary to me: because the effects upon the user (beyond engagement) are literally meaningless. If the system can burn out your mental health while increasing engagement, it can and will make that choice.

If the system can burn out your mental health while increasing engagement, it can and will make that choice.

While the platform, many more times than not profits from that engagement? I completely agree.

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Post by soundwave106 »

notyourday wrote: post #174
rmoriz wrote: post #89

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FetLife

They can't even figure out how to accept credit cards.

That's not a problem of their own making, their payment processors essentially dropped them for (cough) "blood, needles, and vampirism" (per the announcement). See https://pastebin.com/FFSQUML9 and https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/payment-processors-are...

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Post by 666lumberjack »

pvarangot wrote: post #194
buboard wrote: post #107

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> The vast vast majority of advertisers do not want to be displayed next to porn. This i dont understand though. Who wouldn't their product to be subconsciously associated with sexual satisfaction?

The click through for non-porn ads besides porn is, in my experience, almost non-existant.

Wasn't there an experiment where a sandwich company bought ads next to videos on Pornhub to target hungry people who'd just gotten off and were hugely successful?

Found it: https://blog.eat24.com/how-to-advertise-on-a-porn-website/

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Post by Nelson69 »

rustybelt wrote: post #162
bvinc wrote: post #21

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

Why can't you monitor (almost) everything? Unless it's at a friend's house, my ten-year-old has no access to tumblr. I fail to understand why children must have access to internet connected devices.

What's your long term game plan with that? At some age, they'll get a device, are you just hoping for the best when that happens? Or "you pay for it, it's your problem" or what?

We limit device time and I try to be as involved as I can, we ask them what they're doing, we try to play games with them, etc. Every day. We keep repeating the mantra about not talking to strangers online, and to tell us if they talk to you. Honestly, I think it's other stuff that will make the difference, spending time with them every day, talking to them about everything, and encouraging active participation in real world stuff like sports and some volunteer work for the homeless through our church.

I don't disagree with the "no internet" idea exactly but at some point they'll be exposed to it and the way things are, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if a smartphone was required equipment for junior high or highschool within the next 5-10 years. Already our schools send us just about everything online, we have regular emails with the teachers and they use google docs and other platforms for online sharing within the school.

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

CPLX wrote: post #6

This bit, within the linked story, seems relevant: https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-...

While this may well be a factor in their decision, it seems highly unlikely to me that (a) Apple was entirely unaware porn existed on Tumblr for the years the app was in the store before November 2018, and (b) the only way Tumblr could ensure there was no child porn on their servers was to ban everything that smacks of NSFW-ness down to "female-presenting nipples." Tumblr's CEO said they've been considering this move for months, and I don't see any reason to doubt him.

Tumblr has never made money, as far as I know, and Yahoo's new corporate parent Oath seems to be a lot less mellow about that sort of thing. I suspect this is a necessary step before they open the advertising floodgates and see if they can get Tumblr to start paying for itself. Losing a massive amount of their userbase is an acceptable outcome as long as there's still enough users there for more advertising to turn a a profit.

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