Tmux and Vim – better together

Post by NocturnalWaffle » Fri, Apr 21, 2017, 12:38 AM UTC

sergiosgc wrote: post #170

name_for_now wrote: post #106

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I used to run more commands from vim, but now I personally find Ctrl-Z is usually more convenient for all the one-off commands. If I do run stuff from inside of vim, it's now usually ":w !" or ":r !" (or some custom command wrapper around those).

Oh! Ctrl-Z! I've been calling !zsh all these years, for quick shell access, and never thought of suspending vim. Thanks for the nugget.

  # Make Ctrl-z also resume background process
  fancy-ctrl-z () {
      if [[ $#BUFFER -eq 0 ]]; then
          BUFFER="fg"
          zle accept-line
      else
          zleush-input
          zle clear-screen
      fi
  }
  zle -N fancy-ctrl-z
  bindkey '^Z' fancy-ctrl-z

Post by flukus » Fri, Apr 21, 2017, 12:47 AM UTC

Taek wrote: post #187

I've found my flow with vim+i3+ranger i3 is a window manager that can outcompete anything you can do with vim splits or a tool like tmux/screen. It's whole existence is based around putting windows in the right place at the right time. Ranger is a vim-like ncurses file browser. I think it's genuinely one of the most underappreciated tools in programming. The ability to hjkl through your file system, with quick marks,…

Post by bigger_cheese » Fri, Apr 21, 2017, 1:33 AM UTC

ruleabidinguser wrote: post #167

news_to_me wrote: post #164

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I think that's a little harsh. What a lot of people (including myself) dislike about IDEs is that you lose a lot of tool composability, and to some extent you have to play by the IDE's rules. With a Vim + CLI setup, you get to define the optimal flow, but the tradeoff is maintainability. For many, though, once you get your environment set up, it feels amazingly natural, more than an IDE could provide. It's more a mat…

Here is the key value provided by an IDE: * Autocomplete. This deserves way more recognition than it gets. Having function signatures, documentation, overloads, types, available IN-LINE while you type saves so much work from programming and is essential to delivering correct code. If you want to be an effective programmer, this is a fundamental tool. * Debugger. Easy breakpoints, conditional breakpoints, built-in pro…

Post by mxvzr » Fri, Apr 21, 2017, 2:14 AM UTC

flukus wrote: post #254

Taek wrote: post #187

I've found my flow with vim+i3+ranger i3 is a window manager that can outcompete anything you can do with vim splits or a tool like tmux/screen. It's whole existence is based around putting windows in the right place at the right time. Ranger is a vim-like ncurses file browser. I think it's genuinely one of the most underappreciated tools in programming. The ability to hjkl through your file system, with quick marks,…

How is i3 for a general purpose desktop? For coding it sounds great, but the same machine is used when I'm browsing the web or playing games or whatever.

Post by wtbob » Fri, Apr 21, 2017, 2:21 AM UTC

noam87 wrote: post #155

dmix wrote: post #107

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Pretty much everyone knows the price of admission to using tools like Vim and Emacs is the time investment in config and learning the quirks. What the OP is saying that this doesn't have to be a perpetual state. Once you invest effort early on getting it right you often don't need to touch it, beyond a few tweaks now and then. The maintenance burden definitely declines over time. Then all you need is a storage soluti…

Honestly, I learned to code with vim, and it never struck me as particularly complicated. The commands follow a pretty consistent logic... the defaults aren't great but it took me one google search to find out what a vimrc file is. emacs on the other hand, even as an experienced programmer, I found near unusable in its default and after a week of frustration with all the inconsistencies and oddities gave up on it. Wh…