Why not keep the rating system, and have an additional thumbs up/down rating? That way you get to vote on the 'objective' quality and the 'subjective' enjoyment factor of the content.
Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down
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That is one reason I've always preferred to control my music directly. Music in particular is something I can't stand to have discontinuity of playlists and collections with.
Spotify reordered my lists. It frustrates me just less than the chore of fixing them would, which is a special class of irritation.
I hear you. It's one of the few things that actually elicits a physical response me from... a kind of shiver of anxiety. I put time and effort and maybe even a little bit of myself into my music lists... it's personal!
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If you include the DVD service they have practically everything. I've been rating movies I've watched in Netflix since 2005-ish. IMDB makes sense, but I chose Netflix and now I'm stuck with them. Data silos suck.
>If you include the DVD service they have practically everything. Though quite a bit less than they used to. My observation is that more and more back catalog type of items are no longer available.
They're definitely not replenishing stocks of some DVD's, which I suppose makes sense given the trend. I would assume if they get a certain number of requests they probably do though?
Or is that my wishful thinking?
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#254I've found some solace using Mubi, which has a pretty devoted film fan base that really puts thought into written reviews + star ratings. I almost always read a handful of these before following-through with a viewing. They also have a nice 1-in-1-out movie per day system which lets them theme films by event (Cannes, director birthdays, etc). Not for everyone, but it's out there.
Glad to see MUBI mentioned here. I spent 9 years of my life building it as co-founder and tech lead. My biased view is that if you are sick of bland streaming selections then you should really support MUBI. The more subscribers we can get the more we are able to fund great unique content. Our approach is fundamentally different from the data-driven, mass-appeal approach that tends to sand all the corners off of Netfl…
Wow, how random that you are on here too, haha. Thanks for building a great product. It addressed pretty much every gripe I had with the bigger streaming services.
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#255As I posted in the dupe: This saddens me. >Users would rate documentaries with 5 stars, and silly movies with just 3 stars, but still watch silly movies more often than those high-rated documentaries That's not incongruous to me. The stars are not about "enjoyment" factor, they are about perceived quality. I may have a go to cheap ice-cream and rate it 3-stars but rate a good affogato 5-stars and only have it once in…
When I watch netflix, I use the stars as a measure of if I would enjoy something. I don't think most people use stars as a measure of "quality" because when they browse movies, they are looking for something they enjoy, not something that's high quality that they might not enjoy.
I've had this argument with my (tending towards elderly) parents while introducing them to Netflix. They don't understand rating for enjoyment, and keep rating for "quality". They'll watch a show, absolutely hate it, but give it a 4 or 5 star rating because "it was well produced and the camera work was good, but it isn't the sort of thing I personally like to watch".
I'm worried about the thumbs up/down, as Netflix has increasingly recommended shows I do not like this year, and I don't think the thumbs solves the "rating for perceived quality" issue. I've been using Movielens for recommendations a lot instead, and it seems more accurate for me... and it has enough stats to show that on their site, most rating is not binary, much closer to a normal curve for average movies or a linear graph on really good movies. (It lets you see the distribution curve on individual movies, and other metrics.)
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
>If you include the DVD service they have practically everything. Though quite a bit less than they used to. My observation is that more and more back catalog type of items are no longer available.
They're definitely not replenishing stocks of some DVD's, which I suppose makes sense given the trend. I would assume if they get a certain number of requests they probably do though? Or is that my wishful thinking?
Maybe? The thing is that the incentives don't really align to make this a real priority of theirs and they've been pretty clear that shipping physical DVDs is not their long-term business model. So long as a lot of people don't start canceling their DVD service because of unavailable disks, they don't have real reason to replenish.
Of course, given that they pretty much put every other rental place out of business, your only choice in a lot of cases is just to buy a disk if you want to watch something that isn't available streaming.
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#257I feel like star ratings, if just given in general, are pretty useless for anything that has multiple qualities. For example, maybe I like the cinematography of a movie but I think the acting is shit, or maybe I think the taste of the beer is nice but it's too acidic or sour and wouldn't work with specific foods because it's overpowering. Airbnb does this pretty much spot on, in that they ask for 1-5 stars for five c…
I think that binary ratings are the purest form of rating. But you have to ask the right question. "Did you enjoy this Airbnb?" is not the right question, because you end up wanting to give a nuanced answer. But "Would you recommend this Airbnb to a friend?" is, I think, the right binary question because it forces you to distill all of your likes and dislikes into a single, unambiguous decision.
The nuance comes when you aggregate many people's binary decisions. A value near 1 tells you many people felt the good way outweighed the bad; a value near 0 tells you the opposite; and a value near 0.5 tells you that people are split. I think that's far more useful than trying to ask many individuals to provide you with a granular score.
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We've analysed product ratings in the past and found that the online ratings tend to have primarily bimodal distributions. People who rate online welf select and either love something and give very good ratings or they dislike and give poor ratings. Unlike surveys where people have to answer questions, only people with extreme reactions tend to answer these online rating questions and you don't get any meaningful di…
I have no doubt you are right about the people who rate online (you definitely see it in restaurant ratings and comment sections) but when I rate movies on Netflix I very, very rarely ever rate something a 1 or a 5. I would imagine that 2/3 of what I rate has been a three (so average content for me) and that it takes something special to go up or down from there. Just curious if I am an outlier with how I do my ratin…
I'm the same way.
1 - Terrible. Good Lord, who thought making this was a good idea?
2 - Poor. Would not watch again
3 - Fair. Neither for or against. Unlikely to watch again, but I don't grudge the time spent.
4 - Good. I enjoyed it. I would probably watch again.
5 - Exceptional. Probably in my top 10 now, and foresee enjoying watching for years to come.
3 and 4 are used a lot. 2 is used occasionally. 1 and 5 are rare.
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#259so how exactly i distinguish between liking something a little and loving something? this seem like pretty retarded decision at least we have TMDb where we can rate and discuss movies, unlike IMDb or Netflix
I think you should distribute your TMDB shilling across a few more accounts, mate. I actually recognized your username from one of your shills I found so bad that I linked it to a buddy of mine. Just some of your recent posts on HN: > why would i participate on dumb backup of database, > done without my consent (OP stole 14 years of my posts), > when I can go to proper movie database with discussions, > imported rati…
it's related to discussion for people who prefer normal star ratings instead of retarded thumbs up, so not sure what's your problem, also not sure what's your definition of shill, but I doubt it's someone who doesn't even bother to provide link for his potential victims and who is just regular user of some website where he was forced to move from IMDb
not sure where you got some fake outrage from my post, when some thief is stealing 14 years worth of my content from IMDb
judging by your language you are most likely shill from some competitors failed forums which are already forgotten as IMDb alternatives
everyone feel free to go through my history to see if I am some account made to spam with TMDb as this expert imply
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#260YouTube got rid of star ratings back in 2009 for similar reasons: https://techcrunch.com/2009/09/22/youtube-comes-to-a-5-star-...