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Re: Elementary OS

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Post by jsz0 »

_qc3o wrote: post #153

I really don't understand why developers use macs at all. They're not good dev machines. All production systems I work with are some flavor of linux (mostly ubuntu). There is actually a real impedance mismatch when I'm using my mac for work purposes. All those cores and RAM become meaningless when I have to do everything in a VM anyway. My personal dev machine is a project sputnik running ubuntu 16.04. I can understa…

> All those cores and RAM become meaningless when I have to do everything in a VM anyway.

Virtualization is a bit less efficient but it certainly does not prevent you from utilizing multiple CPU cores or all your available RAM -- minus the resources consumed by the host OS of course.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by calvin_ »

dajohnson89 wrote: post #81
mavelikara wrote: post #9

My mini Ask HN: After over a decade of using Mac OS X, I am considering switching to Linux for my dev laptop. The tools I worry about are those that interact with audio and webcam - Go To Meeting, Google Hangout etc. My work involves me having to teleconf with others often. Does anyone here have experience using Linux well in such scenarios. If so, what hardware are you using? Also, does sleep-on-closing-lid work wel…

Some laptops were designed around Linux. See e.g. system76

Not really - they're just Clevo rebrands with the bare minimum effort. When graphics switching was new, they were quite helpless.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by Rotareti »

djhworld wrote: post #150

I bought a 2015 MBP back in January, so I'm all set for a few years at least. Whether OSX goes down the pan even more, I don't know. Moving to Linux seems like a romantic idea, but I can forsee there being a number of problems that would make it unfeasible for me 1. I use 1Password, no Linux client 2. Spotify client is no longer being developed for Linux 3. YouNeedABudget software is not Linux compatible - I have 2+…

> 5. I have a number of Alfred workflows, and enjoy using Alfred in general.

You may want to check-out Albert. [0]

> Yes, there are a number of open source alternatives, but I've built up enough inertia on OSX it's going to be very difficult for me to switch.

The longer you work on one platform the more you get locked into it. This may not be a problem for the time you are happy with the platform you are locking into. But keep in mind that you are currently locking into a closed source platform. I migrated from MS to Linux about a year ago after being on Windows for about 2 decades. The burden migrating out of it was heavy. With the upcoming closed source cloud platforms this will get even worse. An open source platform gives you more control and freedom over your workflows and data. IMO this is something which cannot be valued highly enough.

[0] https://github.com/ManuelSchneid3r/albert

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by lukeschlather »

pritambaral wrote: post #181
lukeschlather wrote: post #37

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Dell is really not trying. Most laptops ship with touchpads that work fine on Linux. Dell ships buggy, painful firmware with a premium laptop, and people give them the benefit of the doubt because it's a "Linux problem," not their mistake.

Have you seen the buggy behaviour you mention with the Developer Edition laptops? Their Developer Edition laptops get special treatment with regards to Linux compatibility. At one point, the made the the company they sourced some new touchpads from develop drivers for Linux and got it upstreamed.

My company issued me one when I started a few months ago. I tried really hard to make it work, but the thing was too buggy in too many different ways. I finally gave up and grabbed a random old Lenovo out of storage, put an SSD, 16GB of RAM, and a new battery in it and it works great.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by confounded »

morganvachon wrote: post #170
confounded wrote: post #146

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Closest thing to an off the shelf Linux MBP: https://puri.sm/

It's a scam project. They claim 100% open hardware but it's just an off the shelf Intel laptop with closed firmware and ME intact. You'd do better with something from System76 or a similar Linux-first vendor.

They did make over-ambitious claims when they were initially crowdfunding/scoping, but I don't think it's their fault that Intel run the processor market for laptops. I think it's good (if naive) that they were shooting for the FSF hardware badge.

I've spent a few minutes on a Librem 13, and it seems like an extremely high quality piece of hardware. It's cool that they're assembled in South San Francisco, too. I really really want to like System76 machines, but they're just so damned ugly!

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by deecewan »

Does Elementary handle mutli-resolution displays better than stock GNOME? That was a major reason for me leaving Linux. I love gnome, but I couldn't deal with not being able to use (in a stable way) a 1080p external monitor with a 4K laptop screen.

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Post by v1dik »

amiga-workbench wrote: post #220
simondedalus wrote: post #219

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yeah, i got used to gnome3 during a redhat class, and subsequently on a default kali install for its own particular purpose, and i don't mind it at all. the alignment is good, and when you want to get rid of all the border stuff you can just full screen. for example, my firefox looks like something out of windows 95, but if i want to pretend i'm using i3, f11 -> fullscreen, ctrl+tab and i'm set. and if i want to see…

I find window snapping pretty essential, using a Mac without better touch tool is truly painful. For my taste, Gnome 3 only needs a few small tweaks, dash to dock, dropdown terminal, and jetisoning adwaita out of the nearest airlock. http://i.imgur.com/jo7XbHl.png

Lovely screenshot. Mind sharing that wallpaper?

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by jwebb99 »

matt4077 wrote: post #192
endgame wrote: post #139

> It has polish and care that the stereotypical raging neckbeards who espouse the mantra of Linux on the desktop are unable to appreciate (or, apparently, build), and it has to exist, even if merely as a counterpoint to all the ugliness. Please be nice :(. Some of those so-called "neckbeards" probably helped build the stack upon which things like elementaryOS rest.

Having an interest in design, I often feel a vibe of aggression towards the whole endeavor coming from some elements of OSS scene that I can see being equally infuriating or hurtful as "neckbeards". Among them are: - dismissal of design as a sort of thin veneer, somewhat fake, lipstick-on-good-bacon - design as a kludge aimed at amateurs, to the point of preferring the worse UI (all else being equal) so as to prove s…

> design as a kludge aimed at amateurs, to the point of preferring the worse UI (all else being equal) so as to prove something.

Ugh, I know exactly what you mean. It's maddening to see stereotypically uncultured nerds celebrate ugly UIs and clumsy CLI apps. It's so ridiculous.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by felipebueno »

Interesting reading.

Since 2012, I've tried Elementary several times but I always come back to whatever other (Debian based) distro with LXDE because there's one thing, really JUST ONE THING, on Elementary I can't stand: the Application Switcher (alt+tab) animation. It's slow and distracting and, even switching any and every UI animation off, I couldn't speed it up.

I still like the project and I really want to use it as my main OS some day (at least for 1 year or so. I'm always switching OSes)... I'll give it a try again next month to see how things are going.

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