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When will we stop using Facebook?

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Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Post by IanCal »

jsprogrammer wrote: post #103
IanCal wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The problem with circles is that the people in a given circle don't necessarily have me in a circle. I'm sorry, I don't really understand what you mean here. If they don't want to 'follow' you, why would you expect to send them things? > I can really just group the input feed, not the output feed You can choose which circle(s) you wish to share with, is that not controlling your output feed? People can filter their…

Incorporated entities expect to be able to send things to people who don't 'follow' them. Don't you get recruiter spam through Linked In? What about the more general advertising and marketing industry? They survive off such a model.

I suppose they would, although that sounds pretty horrible. "Companies can't spam people" isn't a problem with a design to me.

> Don't you get recruiter spam through Linked In?

Yes, the rate of which makes LinkedIn just an inbox for job offers for me, not a social network.

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Post by galfarragem »

junto wrote: post #34

I stopped two years ago. As far as I am aware I'm not missing much. I did have a lot of old friends on FB, but I didn't stay in contact with them in real life. I was just lazily snooping on their lives, without giving anything in return. To be completely honest, I don't have space or time for them in my real life. It isn't because I didn't like them anymore, it was simply that I didn't have the time or energy to stay…

Facebook is not cool anymore but Facebook is more useful than ever was and will probably remain so for a long time: they managed to get almost all available users (directly or by aqquisitions) and changing the status quo would be really difficult (not even Google was able to do it..). Facebook is the userbase.

I still use FB because everybody is there, if I need to talk to someone or arrange an event, I can send them a message without knowing their actual email or phone. I'm not interested in knowing that a friend I meet once a year went to the restaurant (I can easily block it) but I am interested in being able to contact him if I need to. Facebook is great for that.

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Post by tracker1 »

ajkjk wrote: post #200
Retra wrote: post #162

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I've found the G+ interface to be mostly unusable, so there's no way I would use it for anything serious.

Same here. Regardless of how sensible their model was, I couldn't find a way to get myself to be willing to spend time on their UI. It was just bad. With something like Facebook rises up from being unknown, its UI was pretty much vouched for early on (otherwise someone else would have won out). Google didn't have to survive competition. They just picked a UI, and I'm sure they followed lots of good UI principles and…

I believe the issues were more in terms of not being able to stage/market the product appropriately...

If "Google+" was first an initiative to create a universal single sign-on across all their own product lines (OAuth/OpenID), to better unify "profiles" which they did some of but didn't push it... and allowed the individual communities to continue to grow on their own (YouTube, their Blog thing, etc)... actually kept reader and extended with their own comment system etc.

By going that route, they could have made your "Google+ Profile" the center of your presence/contacts for the different social hubs. In the end, this is what happened anyway, at the cost of cannibalizing a few products, and alienating others, instead of doing the profile first, then offering "follows" across the sub-communities in a single interface later.

I think google's engineers are/were skilled enough to go this route, which would have been less "pure" architecturally, but more organic and better received.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Post by coreymaass »

When Facebook first launched dedicated apps for groups and messages, I was confused. But now I only have those installed, and not the primary app. I've also bookmarked both the messages page and the groups main page (which actually took some searching). I get a lot of groups, and there are some people I'm only able to talk with via Facebook messages.

Malls are ubiquitous in much of the US, and people use them differently. Some people wander, some people run in to the one store they need and leave. Some people hang out at the food court. I view Facebook the same way - as they continue to build out features, different people will choose to use the bits and pieces that work for them.

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Post by tracker1 »

tracker1 wrote: post #244
ajkjk wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. Regardless of how sensible their model was, I couldn't find a way to get myself to be willing to spend time on their UI. It was just bad. With something like Facebook rises up from being unknown, its UI was pretty much vouched for early on (otherwise someone else would have won out). Google didn't have to survive competition. They just picked a UI, and I'm sure they followed lots of good UI principles and…

I believe the issues were more in terms of not being able to stage/market the product appropriately... If "Google+" was first an initiative to create a universal single sign-on across all their own product lines (OAuth/OpenID), to better unify "profiles" which they did some of but didn't push it... and allowed the individual communities to continue to grow on their own (YouTube, their Blog thing, etc)... actually kep…

I'm also still pissed that I can't have "tracker1" for my Google+ profile URL.. my old google profile was "tracker1" and half the first two pages of results on google search for "tracker1" are references to me.

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Post by thebouv »

hellbanTHIS wrote: post #222
thebouv wrote: post #128

My wife cut off FB 2 years ago but I still use it mostly like a forum. Locally we have a group of 50ish gamers (Warhammer, 40k, Warmachine, etc) and this is the primary way games / tournaments / campaigns are set up. Even a trading area since gamer nerds are apt to constantly buy and trade their toys. What's funny is we've had to convince our younger members to even sign up so we could communicate with them. Anyone y…

Sounds like a job for Slack.

Same issue we had trying to get people to forums. Signing up is hard to do no matter how easy you make it. Including if it allows for Facebook sign-ons.

They're already ON Facebook. It's on their phone. They don't have to do anything.

Trust me, I -want- an updated platform to use, but the rest of the gamer community here just doesn't seem to want to migrate.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Post by justysebitcoin »

learnstats2 wrote: post #227
madez wrote: post #118

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I also stopped using Facebook, shortly before the revelations of massive surveillance. At that time I was convinced I shouldn't be in the arms of companies, stopped using many services and started self-hosting stuff. People didn't understand me. Then, Edward Snowden revealed that the possible abstract threats I wanted to avoid can in fact become real. We are fortunate to have received this information. People still d…

I would value some detail about how you go about self-hosting.

this is a great start: https://mailinabox.email/

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Post by tim333 »

wwweston wrote: post #212

Don't know if this will be popular here, but... I like Facebook. I like seeing people's pictures and updates. I like serendipitous moments where someone announces they're in town and I get a chance to see people I haven't seen in years. I like keeping track of social events with it. I like reading a lot of their articles. I like the conversations I get in (even some of the arguments). I think it complements and enhan…

Probably uncool but I like facebook too. Maybe I should have a more happening social life but in the absence of that it's not a bad way to keep up with people. I'm not even especially bothered about the privacy / surveillance stuff. I don't post anything I'd be particularly worried about being public and I'm not to fussed about the add tracking thing effecting which ads uBlock ends up blocking or that I don't read. I just scrolled through the last 35 posts in the main feed and couldn't find anything obviously sponsored. If there's one thing that bugs me it's not having much control over the filtering. On the phone I only tend to get quite a small subset of my friends posts.
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