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Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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Am I the only one who almost never even visits their homepage? My browser's homepage functionality could be removed and I have no idea how long it would take me to notice. Even then, it isn't currently set to Google.

Haha ok you make a good point. I guess people need to set their default search engine then...

That's more pertinent to me. However, that would require me to find another search engine as good as (or better than) Google.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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Unless they've recently renegotiated, Google only gets 5% and the other 25% goes to the carrier. I'm not sure why the carriers in the counties where Play doesn't support payments haven't been able to get Google to implement support though.

Let me get this straight. If i happen to purchase an app on goggle play and say I'm using my home wifi to install it since I value my bandwidth their still getting 25%? I get goggle making money but a carrier who doesn't do jack making money? In what world does that make sense?

It's not about bandwidth used, it's about the billing service (charging via the customers carrier contract)

25% is a low rate for that, carriers usually charge 40-60% of the total amount, which seems totally insane to me considering that a carrier has much lower fraud risks than some web service because they usually have established billing relationships with they customers.

Edit: Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_payment#Direct_operator_...

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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In the suspension notice I received I had a way to appeal it.

I received a notification in adsense that I was in violation of a policy and clicked the "ok", or "fixed" button when I removed the page. They don't just ban people and walk away unless you plain didn't read the TOS and are breaking big rules like clicking your own ads, doing shady stuff, etc.

I was banned for invalid click activity. I NEVER clicked any of my ads intentionally and never asked anyone else to either. One time I misclicked and hit an ad and immediately looked up whether I needed to report it and found a page saying that an accidental click was fine and didn't need to be reported. I mentioned this in my appeal after getting banned and got a nonanswer that they couldn't help me and I would stay banned.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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> Google has been taking a collective shit The biggest issue with anything Google related is absolute lack of communication/transparency. They have been baning web pages from Google AdSense and never told the owners why, without any way to appeal decision. The oracle has spoken, You are not worthy. Take this automatic reply message based on some words from your email.

In the suspension notice I received I had a way to appeal it.

You get one single appeal, and in my experience they don't give you any additional information on what you may have done to get banned and just tell you you're going to stay banned.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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I feel it's an obvious problem that apps that allow IAP are listed as free. Has google or apple fixed this yet? When browsing for apps there you may see a top app being free and another costing $1. You pick the "free" one and it turns out it is useless without an IAP whereas the $1 app perhaps would not. It turns out the free app costs $2 in order to function as well as the $1 app. The consumer friendly thing to do w…

Apple has a small note saying "Offer In App Purchases" below "Free" button. Though you have to view the app page for that. In iTunes & Web, there's a section for popular IAP under the app icon.

It also shows up as a small + symbol below the installation in the app page and the search page. Anywhere you see a price, you can also see if it has IAP.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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post #192

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This. Google needs one Jobsian hard-ass in charge of product marketing/quality to keep this swarm of ADD mayhem under control and set priorities. Around Android 2.3 I was a huge fanboy because the platform had so much potential. Now? The platform still has so much potential, and I'm only a fan because it's an open-source platform with real consumer adoption - not because I think it's actually good . Microsoft shovele…

That isn't the Google way. The need someone tapping the right data on audience feedback, with the right internal priority to execute on solutions. Because failing your customers is basically evil. We already have enough faceless companies.

Hanlon's Razor applies: it's not evil, it's incompetence. Specifically, it's lack of competence to apply discipline and make their hobby (Android) a reality.

It could be that they're afraid that mobile will subsume all other things at Google (look at how it's dominating at Apple), and make the company substantially different.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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I know Google's policy on this, but I completely understand where the developer is coming from. Google has been taking a collective shit on every developer out of its list of seller countries[0], which is ridiculously short and hasn't been expanded in god knows how long, and even then, there were only a handful of countries added. On Google's page about seller countries they say: "We're working hard to add more count…

It's interesting seeing Google as a grown up company, with many of the flaws they acquired early on still intact and at Google scale. You can be spending $100ks per month on adwords and still not have a competent person to call when you need help. EVen if you do, they don't know much and can't do much. Realistically, it's not much better than an outsourced call centre and much worse than the far less profitable Big A…

I can't speak to their corporate support but as a consumer I've had issues with two Nexus devices and called them for support. The first was fixed by a factory reset and the second meant I needed a RMA. Both times the person on the other end of the line somewhat immediately recognized that I didn't need to be instructed to "plug it in." They asked me what I'd done already and moved forwards from there without making me (pretend to) re-do steps I'd already taken. While it's pretty crappy that I've had issues out of the box with 2 out of my 4 Google devices, the tech support has been great.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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I had one of the first 100 apps ever published on Google Play (then called Android Market). After a few months being live, I eventually implemented my own in app purchases using PayPal. Back then Google had no support for any kind of paid apps (only free apps were allowed), and Apple hadn't introduced IAPs. Still, Google removed my app 3 times before I gave up republishing it. Also, in the classic Google style, when…

Obvious question: which country?

Unsupported EU countries:

Bulgaria

Croatia

Cyprus

Estonia

Greece

Hungary

Latvia

Lithuania

Luxembourg

Malta

Romania

Slovakia

Slovenia

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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>>far from having a monopoly on App Stores Google has a (quasi-) monopoly on android app stores. Overall marketshare of android is irrelevant.

No, it's not irrelevant. It's not illegal to have a monopoly. It's only illegal to try to kill the competition in another market by abusing that monopoly, which is what Microsoft did, and Google is not doing.

>>No, it's not irrelevant. Yes it is. >> It's only illegal [...] It is illegal to abuse the monopoly position. Which IS what google is doing. Googles app store is NOT just another store. Monoplies need special regulation and special oversight.

Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP

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Official app stores are quasi-monopolies and need government control. Think about all the time and work the developer has invested. And can't be possible for google to effectively keep him from selling the app just because they feel like it. If they have an app distribution monopoly, developers have a right to publish their app there. It is not a favor google grants. This is something laws have to enforce as companie…

> Official app stores are quasi-monopolies and need government control. I highly doubt that the government that might address it (the US government) would take a stand that would protect a Nigerian developer. Government regulation isn't the answer to everything. Extra app stores are.

Extra app stores are the answer to everything? Wow ;) I never said that gov. regulation is the answer to everything. But in this case it is. That the US gov might act wrong in this case is a completely different issue.
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