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Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
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Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point is, that the developer can't use the Payment Processor on the Market, because Google will not allow him to use it (he is from the "wrong country").
Shouldn't the developer have known this through reading the rules of the store BEFORE he/she developer the app? If you can't be bothered to do due diligence before making such a big business decision you aren't equipped to run a business.
There are people who had paypal options before google wallet/IAP even existed.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#133Idea: enable extra options for registered users with a "gold" account. Make a simple website where users can create an account and pay for the extra options.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anecdotes like this one do indeed suggest they're not trying as hard as they can: > I hate this bullshit, they've said exactly the same about my country for 3 years before actually adding seller support. They were about 3 years slower than Microsoft and Apple. I actually am a Google fanboy for the record. But it does seem like they just don't care about this.
Yes, but Microsoft and Apple have the advantage of having physical products, stores, agreements, etc. in the international market already.
Google seems really flakey. It's a bamboo platform. Discontinued services... a road-map that focusses on creepy glasses, self-driving cars and ditches Motorola for Nest.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you think that's good for users though? Especially with Google's lax oversight of the marketplace? If the developer using their own payment method changed their PayPal redirect to a phishing site, would users notice? What if you implemented your own credit card payment? Where's the guarantee that you're PCI compliant? I can tell you that 99% of your users won't know what PCI compliance is. If Google allows users t…
So where does that leave your "do the dirty work yourself" argument? Apparently you don't want developers to do the dirty payment systems work themselves. Neither does Google. So I suggest you reconsider your rather hostile attitude towards the developer who complained about Google's inactivity.
Wait, now I'm the hostile one? lol ok.
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#136I know Google's policy on this, but I completely understand where the developer is coming from. Google has been taking a collective shit on every developer out of its list of seller countries[0], which is ridiculously short and hasn't been expanded in god knows how long, and even then, there were only a handful of countries added. On Google's page about seller countries they say: "We're working hard to add more count…
> Google has been taking a collective shit The biggest issue with anything Google related is absolute lack of communication/transparency. They have been baning web pages from Google AdSense and never told the owners why, without any way to appeal decision. The oracle has spoken, You are not worthy. Take this automatic reply message based on some words from your email.
In the suspension notice I received I had a way to appeal it.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> They aren't and they don't. They are a store like any other and the store owner can decide not to sell your products without a good reason if they want to. On Android there are several alternative stores (most notably Amazon) not to mention apps can be installed directly by downloading the APK without any device modification. It's the same as with internet explorer on windows back in the day. google play is preins…
>> "google play is preinstalled" Device manufactures can choose to install or not install it. e.g. Kindle Fire comes with the Amazon App Store, not the Play Store. Therefore consumers can choose a device with or without the Google Play Store.
>> "google play is preinstalled"
on the majority of devices. my point still stands.
Re: Google permanently bans popular application from Play for not using IAP
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
An expansion may never come. When they created their new policy requiring use of Google Play for all IAP, they could have easily carved out an exception for app teams not based in countries served by their payment system. Anyone bright enough to be hired by Google to write app store policies would have been smart enough to anticipate this scenario. Since Google doesn't make glaring mistakes like this, it was intentio…
> The only logical conclusion is that Google wants all Android development outside of the countries it has named to cease immediately. What would be the motive? More likely they didn't want to risk carving an exception (leading to e.g. scammers taking advantage of the loophole, breaking users' payment expectations, etc.) . Restricting third-party payment methods within a curated store is related to but distinct from…
To clarify, if it was allowed, all someone would have to do is register their app in a country that didn't require Google's IAP, then they wouldn't have to pay Google's 30% cut.
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#139A common theme that has been appearing is how hard it is to actually speak to somebody about stuff (Apple, Google, Twitter, etc...) when shit hits the fan.
I earn most of my income via Apple & Google, but if I want support from Apple, it takes 2-3 days for a response (I've made them 5 figures in revenue in the past year alone).
There isn't even a method that I could find for me to contact Google if I have a legitimate seller issue (which I've had, but just give up on), despite earning for them also.
The recent story about @N losing his Twitter handle highlighted there's nobody to contact when this stuff goes wrong.
It's easy to say the big tech companies can't possibly deal with the sheer number of users they have and the amount of support they would have if it were easy to contact them, but then isn't that the price they should have to pay if they want to earn $Billions?