Swiping feels a bit more accurate than Gboard overall. I'm not seeing a way to add a word to the dictionary. Am I missing something?
FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model
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Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model
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Thanks. It's available only for the US layout, not UK. I'm writing down a few impressions: - the layout is unusual, but I get the motivation. Distances are minimised and letters are arranged so that ambiguity is removed. - although I'm very slow, I haven't made a single mistake so far. Clearflow allows me to swipe much more accurately than stock gboard. - the square keyboard layout unfortunately means that half the l…
Hi, Yes I'm in the same boat as you - had to switch to US language instead of UK. I've been addiing the anglisised versions of words to my dictionary as I go along so it's becoming less of an issue over time. Maybe I'll switch to FUTO in order to not have to deal with this anymore. Gboard has one nice feature though in that I have multiple languages enabled so I get correct predictive completion in non-English langua…
FUTO has a "multilingual typing" setting, maybe that's what you're looking for?
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#243I love swiping for speed, because it's usually faster than tapping and easy to do one-handed, but then there are always a bunch of words that are too similar that it can never get right, it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. So for the longest time, I've wanted a new keyboard layout specifically designed for swiping. In the same way that Dvorak was optimized for ergonomically typing English words,…
> it doesn't deal well with doubled vs single letters, etc. You mean like the two E’s in “feel” or the two L’s in “fell”? I just tried and it handles them well. Are you aware of the circling technique? When you want to double up on a letter, you briefly circle it slightly. I believe some keyboards let you hover momentarily without circling. Try it, swipe F-E-L, it should complete to “fell”, then do the same thing aga…
FWIW, I just switched to FUTO yesterday and (out of the box at least) it doesn't support this. With gboard, that works great, but with FUTO it does not.
I looked in the "Swipe Typing" options and there doesn't seem to be a config for it.
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iOS has that.
Mate...it does not, it's not like I haven't tried. Try to set Bulgarian keyboard on the native iOS and let me know exactly what you see. https://www.apple.com/uk/ios/feature-availability/#quicktype...
I have two languages defined in iOS (English and French) and the native swift keyboard recognizes which language I'm swifting in.
Maybe this is supported only for specific language combinations.
Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model
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What's particularly objectionable about the Futo License? Is it this part? you may not remove or obscure any functionality in the software related to payment to the Licensor in any copy you distribute to others.
The clause you cited as well as the "Termination" section and the non-commercial restriction make it a non-free license. Besides the direct issues with that, it also means all software covered by this license is unsuitable for FOSS-only distributions like Debian or F-Droid. It's not entirely clear to me if the license is copyleft; derivative works have similar problems if so. As an aside, Eron Wolf, the billionaire b…
eron/FUTO are not trying to dilute the term Open Source, they are trying to address a real problem that Free Software and Open Source face, and that we do need to find a solution for. their initial wording may not have been ideal, but that is because there is no defined terminology, and because the point is to be close to open source as is possible.
this is not an out of touch view. on the contrary. what is out of touch is to believe that Open Source is perfect as it is, and nothing should be changed about it.
the problem that FUTO is trying to address is the commercial exploitation by large companies (like AWS) at the expense of the original creators. a problem that several companies (redis, mongodb, elasticsearch, zerotier, terraform, vagrant, and many more...) in recent years had to face, causing them to change their license.
it's a problem that bruce perens is also trying to address: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38783500 "What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it"
btw: i recently asked bruce about this and he said that AI now changes everything and he wants to wait and see how that will affect Open Source.
it is not obvious that FUTO's approach is the right one. it is an attempt at addressing the problem, and i expect that it will take more such experiments to shake out what the best approach to this problem really is.
i wrote about this before:
Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model
#246Voice dictation is so much better than GBoard, which I've been using until now. It capitalizes and punctuates sentences without me needing to, and got several sentences perfect without any post-editing needed, and it's all a local model. The one downside is no real-time update, just batch conversion once you're done talking. Looks like they've fixed the swipe backspace and spacebar to not be over-sensitive like it wa…
gboard has voice dictation and it has real-time update
Yep, and it's pretty bad. The only benefit is real-time, which is why I highlighted that FUTO lacks that. If it made as many errors as GBoard, it wouldn't be worth using.
Re: FUTO Swipe – A new swipe typing model
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Mate...it does not, it's not like I haven't tried. Try to set Bulgarian keyboard on the native iOS and let me know exactly what you see. https://www.apple.com/uk/ios/feature-availability/#quicktype...
I have two languages defined in iOS (English and French) and the native swift keyboard recognizes which language I'm swifting in. Maybe this is supported only for specific language combinations.
It is indeed supported only for some languages - you can check the link for which ones. And it's not only about recognising multiple languages, but actual functionality that it's missing. It doesn't have a Bulgarian dictionary and support for swipe in BG, which is what I need...
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And anyway, there's no keyboard on earth who can handle multi-language typing in a sane way. They either mash all languages together, or force random layouts on you, or... I stuck with GBoard because I just hate it less than others, so when I found this topic I thought yay let's try - until I read it's only for English. So there.
I really like how gboard handles it. It figures out what language I'm typing from the first couple of words and prioritises those. This way I can even mix languages within the same sentence and it will still recommend the right ones. It's really really good.
Are you sure, like really sure you mean gboard? In my gboard I choose the language I want to type in, and that's the language for everything (settings, typing, recommendations...).
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#249Gboard has been messing with the emoji search recently. It is worse.
Previously, if you type "fac" or "face" or "facep" or "facepa" or "palm" in the search box, you'd get the facepalm emoji among the results. Inexplicably, now the lying emoji, bacon, fondue are shown when you type "fac" but not the classic facepalm. It is only after you type "facepal" that the facepalm emoji appears in the results, which is a major... facepalm for the Gboard team.
As a parent, I need to _constantly_ send the facepalm emoji to my partner, so I noticed immediately when it recently changed. I think they're now trying to account for multiple languages, misspellings, a larger list of synonyms that allows partial matches, sentiment/meaning/synonyms, etc. In any case, I've always felt like emojis should be weighted by overall usage patterns (I have never used the fondue emoji and don't know anyone who does) and now they need a better search trie, where the facepalm emoji is in the top results of "fac".
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It requires more precision than Swype, but GBoard supports multi-word word deletion if you swipe back originating from the backspace key. You get some haptic feedback, and can scrub to adjust the selected boundary. Unfortunately some of those Swype nicities are patented [1], so other keyboards can't use them. [1]: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7098896B2/en
I feel like a clean room opensource keyboard could implement those without any patent liabilities. Software patents are notoriously difficult to enforce and I don't think nuance is spending any money enforcing this given they stopped swype in 2018.
They're now owned by infamously-litigious Microsoft.