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Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says
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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says
#242Maybe to spark curious conversation, when a world power seems to be supportive of actions that an international body considers negative, what structure can help resolve these? It does seem like UN is unable to really make a dent here.
Boycott. Divestment. Sanctions.
Do you plan to do that to any other Countries in the Middle East?
Saudi Arabia's human rights record all good for you?
Pakistan?
China and the Uyghurs - mass internment camps and sterilisation of female prisoners. They get a complete pass?
Antizionism is Bondi Beach.
Antizionism is a hate movement.
Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says
#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
Now do Jews in Muslim countries. Or in areas under control of the PA.
Imagine you're a parent explaining to a kid why it's not right to punch other kids. Do you accept "but they punch other kids too" as an excuse?
Imagine a parent introducing some special rules to protect a kid that’s being punched, like having them sit at the front, and the bullies start crying why they can’t sit in the front.
Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
This webpage has a pretty good rundown on the status of Arab Israelis: https://www.cfr.org/backgrounders/what-know-about-arab-citiz... An example of implicit discrimination is Israel's ban on family unification with Palestinian spouses: https://www.adalah.org/en/law/view/511
The linked article is also blaming socioeconomic differences on Israel. But by many metrics Israeli Arabs are doing better than Arabs in other Arab countries. E.g. life expectancy for Israeli Arabs is higher than the Arab average, and higher than Jordan or Egypt. Similarly for income. While Israeli Arabs on average earn 65% that of Jewish Israelis at $2,400 vs $3,750, the average income in Jordan is $865, and Egypt $…
The question is whether Israel treats its Arab citizens fairly. Not whether they fare better in Israel than other countries by some metrics.
Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says
#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
Imagine you're a parent explaining to a kid why it's not right to punch other kids. Do you accept "but they punch other kids too" as an excuse?
Imagine a parent introducing some special rules to protect a kid that’s being punched, like having them sit at the front, and the bullies start crying why they can’t sit in the front.
The Israeli occupation of Palestine is nothing like a teacher sitting some kids at the front.
Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says
#246Maybe to spark curious conversation, when a world power seems to be supportive of actions that an international body considers negative, what structure can help resolve these? It does seem like UN is unable to really make a dent here.
If the latest Gaza war taught us anything, is that UN is powerless. And, unfortunately, it is the highest entity that could apply leverage here, so... Not much we can do. In the long term I hope other nations realize they are very vulnerable and begin to invest more in defense, but that escalation can have other downsides.
It has taught us the the UN is completely corrupted by antizionist hate.
The UN Human Rights Council passed 68 resolutions against Israel in its first decade (2006–2016) — more than the other 67 resolutions against the rest of the world combined, and three times more than any other single country. Meanwhile, 48 countries with serious human rights abuses received zero condemnatory resolutions, including China, Russia, Cuba, Yemen, and Zimbabwe. Countries that did receive resolutions included Syria (20), Myanmar (11), North Korea (9), Belarus (6), Iran (6), and Eritrea (5). Contrast these basket case countries like North Korea and Iran with Israel's record of liberal democracy, free elections, an independent judiciary, rule of law, protections for speech, religion, minorities, women, and LGBTQ people. Israel aint perfect but please, even antzionist haters can see how ridiculously corrupted the UN it is by antizionst hate.
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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says
#248There's only one honorable response, and it couldn't be simpler: A complete and immediate arms and dual-use technology embargo of Israel, combined with more general sanctions. South Africa should be the model: Just ostracize them as much as possible. Say what you will about Russia, but Israel can never be self-sufficient, and China (justifiably) appears to despise them, so sanctions and embargoes would be substantial…
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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
The linked article is also blaming socioeconomic differences on Israel. But by many metrics Israeli Arabs are doing better than Arabs in other Arab countries. E.g. life expectancy for Israeli Arabs is higher than the Arab average, and higher than Jordan or Egypt. Similarly for income. While Israeli Arabs on average earn 65% that of Jewish Israelis at $2,400 vs $3,750, the average income in Jordan is $865, and Egypt $…
The question is whether Israel treats its Arab citizens fairly. Not whether they fare better in Israel than other countries by some metrics.
If you’re going to look at differences between groups, you can’t apply causality and accusation unless you account for other factors.
Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says
#250This is really sickening - if North Korea or any other less connected country did this, you would quickly see their national (tech) companies being sanctioned by the west. I never understood how a country like Israel, given the history of its own tribe, can themselves become so gruesome and have a hugely state-supported private spy-tech sector that supports the worst autocrates in the world as long as the money flows…
Hopefully Israel will have lost American support in a generation or so, who cares what happens to them after that.
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