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Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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Post by pibaker »

justacrow wrote: post #196
sph wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Congrats to those among us building this dystopia. It's not Larry Ellison coding these systems.

Look, I have exactly two options: 1) Me and my entire family starves to death 2) I make 600k per year building surveillance systems for whoever wants them (as long as they're aligned with Peter Thiels and/or government interests)

This post has an 80% chance of being satire, and 20% chance of being from someone who honestly thinks not being able to afford a new iPhone every six weeks is literally like starving to death. Honestly, I can't tell.

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Post by NoGravitas »

GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #209

Everytime someone like this opens his mouth I look up their year of birth. He's 82 already. That calms me. And I wholeheartedly hope that there won't really be life prolonging biotech. I like a merciful natural death. It's the ultimative emergency fix for gerontocracies.

His son is just as bad or worse, though, and is well-positioned to pick up where Lawnmower Larry leaves off.

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Post by lenerdenator »

dismalaf wrote: post #189
lenerdenator wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that's what the Larry Ellisons of the world want. One of the bigger lies ever told is that free-market economies help democratize nations. They don't. If they did, we would have made massive investments in Eastern Europe after the fall of the Marxist-Leninist governments there. Instead we decided to invest in China and, later, Vietnam, among others. These are two very non-democratic nations. Why did we do that, e…

> They don't. If they did, we would have made massive investments in Eastern Europe after the fall of the Marxist-Leninist governments there. Ummm, what? Have you been to Eastern Europe lately (minus Ukraine, Belarus and Russia)? They're basically the west, except cleaner and less crime-ridden.

That's the wrong takeaway from the post, and I think you know it.

Imagine what those countries would be like if they'd received the investment that the Chinese did 35 years ago.

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Post by frm88 »

GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #209

Everytime someone like this opens his mouth I look up their year of birth. He's 82 already. That calms me. And I wholeheartedly hope that there won't really be life prolonging biotech. I like a merciful natural death. It's the ultimative emergency fix for gerontocracies.

That does not safe us from the young generation of the "fentanyl laced urin" Andreessen, "women should not vote" Thiel, "humans are NPCs" Musk. I have no idea how they educate their children, but if David Ellison is any parameter to go by, there will be no fix, just emergency.

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Post by joquarky »

standardly wrote: post #185
pureliquidhw wrote: post #158

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Hate that I'm biting on this, but this isn't constructive, whereas AI generated or not, the comment above is. It is the top one, it is succinct, and it articulates the point clearly. You seem to lament AI and given the context of that comment, the author presumably does too. The world is moving faster and faster towards AI first so kicking an screaming "That's AI" will not help. AI generated noise sucks, nut this is…

I simply disagree. If I wanted an LLM's opinion, I would forego HN entirely and just use ChatGPT. I browse forums like this to get organic opinions from real people. When I see someone post an LLM reply, it makes me wonder - is the reply synonymous with their actual opinion, only formatted better? Or are they attempting to disguise an LLM output as something of their own? The former I am much more OK with, but the la…

>When I see someone post an LLM reply, it makes me wonder

>but maybe we've reached a point of no return

So you're creating your own suffering by perceiving a duality that doesn't really matter.

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Post by frm88 »

vondur wrote: post #114
squidsoup wrote: post #66

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While that’s true, the Chinese government does also seem to be motivated to keep the cost of housing and food low for its citizens, and provide services and facilities for the public good.

Ha, you really believe that? You can't live in area without the permission of the Government. The current Chinese regime seems to be really going kinda crazy with their new leader. They've lost their more practical leadership since the new guy has consolidated power.

You can't live in area without the permission of the Government.

This comes up every. single. time. It's so undifferentiated to be basically misinformation. Huji, household registration has existed in China for centuries. The modern form, hukou was designed to control mass migration and rapid urbanisation which is, with a population of 1B, understandable if you want to avoid clusters of slums with populations in the millions. Besides, they are lessing this more and more since 2012.

https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202312/05/WS656e7f76a3109...

with their new leader

New? Xi Jinping has been leading China since 2012, that's almost 15 years.

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Post by f-serif »

anal_reactor wrote: post #235
f-serif wrote: post #113

Bangladesh is one of the best example of it. People usually don't want to follow traffic laws on road. Now that we have AI camera recording and AI fine system, people try their best to follow traffic laws. We are becoming Japan following traffic laws in certain areas. Police usually were scared to fine million dollars cars (because the car owner might be part of something higher power and they could lose their job).…

The subtlety I rarely see discussed is that: - privacy is fantastic in a society full of good people - surveillance is the best defence against shit people

Unfortunately, this is the truth.

I want surveillance cameras everywhere except my home (We have American surveillance at home :D ).

I don't mind surveillance + Dystopian Sci-fi movie like automatic action.

6000 childrens were raped in just first 3 months of 2026 in Bangladesh. This is just one example how bad the situation is.

AI traffic cameras proved, how civilized we can be, with proper treatment.

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