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Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Thrymr wrote: post #233
brokencode wrote: post #44

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Pretty smart for SpaceX though. They’re turning an asset they made for a money-pit (Grok) into probably a major source of revenue ahead of their IPO.

Sure, if "pretty smart" means overinvest in capital spending on an dirty datacenter powered by unpermitted gas generators that you don't even need anymore because of lack of demand for your product, so you lease it to a competitor (presumably at a huge loss). I am not sure that "major source of revenue" as a datacenter provider is the kind of growth opportunity that IPO investors are looking for.

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Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by timmmmmmay »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #77

Colossus 1 datacenter is the one using illegal power, is poisoning the air for poor communities near Memphis, and is potentially poisoning the water. It's likely the additional demand on the grid will cause massive blackouts during extreme weather events, putting residents at further risk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(supercomputer)#Envir... So you can put Anthropic on your list of companies that like to t…

it's in a former appliance factory that's right next to two pre-existing TVA power plants, a Nucor steel mill, and a sewage treatment facility. you've been lied to about how close it is to a residential area, just look at a map

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by ceejayoz »

small_model wrote: post #239
Sammi wrote: post #192

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Anyone who has googled just once to ask if datacenters in space make any sense, has found out they don't because they can't get rid of heat. That leaves only two kinds of people left who are still talking excitedly about datacenters in space: The uninformed and the grifters.

SpaceX have presented on this and it's fairly straightforward and they already do it with starlink satellites, just at a larger scale. Sound like you are the uniformed one (or an EDS victim)

Starlink satellites don't generate the sort of heat a datacenter full of GPUs does. The ISS has enormous radiators, and it's only in space because it's a space station. Putting datacenters there is just goofy given the amount of available space on the ground.

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Post by Salgat »

mirzap wrote: post #49

Doubling the five-hour rate limits is merely a marketing stunt if the weekly rates are not also doubled. It simply means that you can reach the weekly limits in three days instead of five.

I disagree. I routinely hit the 5 hour limit on Pro with Opus 4.7 just trying to have it do one design task or comprehensive code review on a large PR, and the worst part is, the overhead and bringing all that context back into another 5 hour window blows through 30%+ of my 5 hour usage limit.

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Post by osiris970 »

causal wrote: post #214
polski-g wrote: post #178

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I like how you said "googling this", but then didn't actually read the article you linked.

> In general, data centers only pay corporate income tax if they generate revenue. Not all data centers do this because many don’t sell goods or services; they simply house servers. By qualifying as business expenses rather than revenue generators, they reduce the tax liability of their parent companies. > Thus, when it comes to income tax, at least, many data centers – especially hyperscale data centers owned by lar…

They pay property taxes. The best tax there is as of now (LVT when)

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by kcb »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #138
cedws wrote: post #111

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It was pretty obvious to me that the merger was a way of quietly shutting xAI down in a way that keeps investors happy. With it also being used as a vehicle to offload the Twitter debt to the public, he certainly has good accountants.

Yep - and in the meantime it's an asset of SpaceX to boost their IPO price, as long as this is done before people realize that xAI is apparently becoming a datacenter company not an AI one. Then you've got SpaceX buying 1200 cybertrucks from Tesla, so it's serving as failure laundering vehicle for all his endeavors.

Elon Musk has been failing any minute now since like what? 2015

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #103
CamperBob2 wrote: post #102

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What does that have to do with my point? Space-based data centers need solar cells too. They are just like terrestrial data centers, only more expensive. For every dollar you save on the PV array, you'll spend two more on radiators. And you don't need permits in international waters, any more than you need them in orbit. Lease space on container ships.

The argument is that it's too hard to gain the necessary approvals on Earth such that space is faster and easier. Not sure I buy it fully (I do see it somewhat), but that's the argument.

The permitting slowdown is if it want to connect to the grid. If you want to run solar behind the meter, you can go nuts.
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