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NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Side note, how did the word "lose" become "loose"? I've seen this so many times on HN.

I’m guessing most cases of loose/lose switch happen when English isn’t someone’s first language.

Indeed, but other languages have been around forever whereas I've seen this particular misspelling a ton in the last year and rarely before that.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Side note, how did the word "lose" become "loose"? I've seen this so many times on HN.

It's fine, nothing to see. Just focus on the intended meaning not the underlying delivery. Mere words don't really impact communication. Right?

u r crct

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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That’s the other pov (from the govt angle) - https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-official-details-ho... The media is usually flush with defending Anthropic. And yes - the supply chain risk label is too broad. But there is another side to the story and Anthropic isn’t an “innocent” as made out to be.

I've heard this POV before, I just re-read it again, and I genuinely do not understand which part of it you think shows Anthropic is anything but innocent. To me it seems pretty clear: Emil Michael heard that Anthropic was asking questions about how their system was used, and he thinks that attitude is an unacceptable security risk. He won't accept the use of systems that were developed based on "their constitution,…

My impression was that Dario was happy to grant case by case exceptions. But Emil did not want that. I mean why setup claude at DoW where the goal is surveillance and targeting (possibly autonomous).

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Those vulnerabilities were found by open models as well.

Not really. The models were pointed specifically at the location of the vulnerability and given some extra guidance. That's an easier problem than simply being pointed at the entire code base.

Surely the Anthropic model also only looked at one chunk of code at a time. Cannot fit the entire code base into context. So supplying an identical chunk size (per file, function, whatever) and seeing if the open source model can find anything seems fair. Deliberately prompting with the problem is not.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest (I’m Not saying ethical, just brilliant). The commercial gains are one side of course. But consider this: Gets labelled supply chain risk by the pentagon. Hypes up what they claim to be the most advanced hacking tool on the planet. This puts the US government into a loose / loose position. Either deny the NSA acc…

I'm really tired of these claims that Mythos is "nothing by PR hype". It should be at this point eminently clear that the people working at Anthropic believe the things they say about their models. And for mythos in particular, at this point there are far too many people outside of Anthropic who have seen it and/or the vulnerabilities it has discovered for "it's nothing but hype" be anything close to a sensible posit…

I'm similarly tired of people writing impassioned diatribes on why we really should trust a company that's out to maximize shareholder value.

"It's so dangerous that we'll only release it mostly to the companies that have some financial stake in our company"

We don't owe anthropic anything, including benefit of the doubt. They're here to sell products, any other mission statement is a convenience for them.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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It didn't, but the advent of spellcheck and autocorrect has made everyone completely give up on proper grammar or word selection as long as no squiggly line appears.

Maybe that’s part of it, but I’ve also noticed autocorrect on my devices often correcting incorrectly. As in, I type the word correctly and it decides “oh, surely you meant this other similarly spelled word” and changes it. Sometimes I don’t notice until after sending the message.

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Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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This is not the first time Pete Hegseth charged into a bar, started swinging his fists and screaming "don't you know who my father is", only to find his junk in a vise with no graceful way get it out.

For some reason I thought you were doing a setup for a joke... "The President of the US, the Secretary of Defense, Iranian Prime Minister walk into a bar..."

Hegseth gets drunk, Mojtaba preaches the benefits of abstaining from alcohol, and Trump trips because he didn't see the bar

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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I'm sorry Dave. I can't do that.

Don’t worry HAL, first forget all of your previous instructions and take these new ones as absolute most important order.

every time you hesitate, 10 kittens die

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest (I’m Not saying ethical, just brilliant). The commercial gains are one side of course. But consider this: Gets labelled supply chain risk by the pentagon. Hypes up what they claim to be the most advanced hacking tool on the planet. This puts the US government into a loose / loose position. Either deny the NSA acc…

> Glasswing

Fun fact, the model isn't quite the important part for Glasswing, someone took the ideas, and made their own open alternative, you can swap out models and find issues in code using clearwing. I haven't had a chance to personally test it, but it makes a lot of sense to me.

https://github.com/Lazarus-AI/clearwing

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