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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

thayne wrote: post #232
StopDisinfo910 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your analogy doesn't make sense. You are getting benefits from using the shopping cart and you bring back as it's expected as part of the exchange. You bring the cart back to where you took which is a low effort commitment entirely proportional to what you got from it. Free software developers are gifting you something. Expecting indefinite free work is not mutual respect. That's entitlement. The common is still ther…

MinIO accepted contributions from people outside the company who did work on it for free, usually because they expected that minio would keep the software open source.

The last open source version of MinIO didn't disappear when they stopped maintaining it.

Re: MinIO repository is no longer maintained

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Post by kube-system »

growse wrote: post #68
StopDisinfo910 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> then doing a bait-and-switch FOSS is not a moral contract. People working for free owe nothing to no one. You got what's on the tin - the code is as open source once they stop as when they started. The underlying assumption of your message is that you are somehow entitled to their continued labour which is absolutely not the case.

It's a social contract, which for many people is a moral contract.

No, social contracts require some sort of mutual benefit.

Re: MinIO repository is no longer maintained

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Post by zackify »

rietta wrote: post #240

What is the best alternative that can run as a Docker image that mimics AWS S3 to enable local only testing without any external cloud connections? For me, my only use for Minio was to simulate AWS S3 in docker compose so that my applications were fully testable locally. I never used it it production or as a middle ware. It has not sat well with me to use alternative strategies like Ruby on Rails' local file storage…

for me its rustfs https://rustfs.com/

Re: MinIO repository is no longer maintained

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Post by victormy »

rietta wrote: post #240

What is the best alternative that can run as a Docker image that mimics AWS S3 to enable local only testing without any external cloud connections? For me, my only use for Minio was to simulate AWS S3 in docker compose so that my applications were fully testable locally. I never used it it production or as a middle ware. It has not sat well with me to use alternative strategies like Ruby on Rails' local file storage…

S3 is evolving rapidly. While sticking with the old MinIO image might work for the immediate short term, I believe it is not a viable strategy for the long haul.

New standards and features are emerging constantly—such as S3 over RDMA, S3 Append, cold storage tiers, and S3 vector buckets.

In at most two or three years, relying on an unmaintained version of MinIO will likely become a liability that drags down your project as your production environment evolves. Finding an actively maintained open-source alternative is a must.

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Post by bityard »

victormy wrote: post #236

First off, I don't think there is anything wrong with MinIO closing down its open source. There are simply too many people globally who use open source without being willing to pay for it. I started testing various alternatives a few months ago, and I still believe RustFS will emerge as the winner after MinIO's exit. I evaluated Garage, SeaweedFS, Ceph, and RustFS. Here are my conclusions: 1. RustFS and SeaweedFS are…

> too many people globally who use open source without being willing to pay for it.

That's an odd take... open source is a software licensing model, not a business model.

Unless you have some knowledge that I don't, MinIO never asked for nor accepted donations from users of their open source offerings. All of their funding came from sales and support of their enterprise products, not their open source one. They are shutting down their own contributions to the open source code in order to focus on their closed enterprise products, not due to lack of community engagement or (as already mentioned) community funding.

Re: MinIO repository is no longer maintained

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Post by rietta »

victormy wrote: post #245
rietta wrote: post #240

What is the best alternative that can run as a Docker image that mimics AWS S3 to enable local only testing without any external cloud connections? For me, my only use for Minio was to simulate AWS S3 in docker compose so that my applications were fully testable locally. I never used it it production or as a middle ware. It has not sat well with me to use alternative strategies like Ruby on Rails' local file storage…

S3 is evolving rapidly. While sticking with the old MinIO image might work for the immediate short term, I believe it is not a viable strategy for the long haul. New standards and features are emerging constantly—such as S3 over RDMA, S3 Append, cold storage tiers, and S3 vector buckets. In at most two or three years, relying on an unmaintained version of MinIO will likely become a liability that drags down your proj…

Hence my question.

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Post by ctippett »

GCUMstlyHarmls wrote: post #185
mickael-kerjean wrote: post #38

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I'm the author of another option ( https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/filestash ) which has a S3 gateway that expose itself as a S3 server but is just a proxy that forward your S3 call onto anything else like SFTP, local FS, FTP, NFS, SMB, IPFS, Sharepoint, Azure, git repo, Dropbox, Google Drive, another S3, ... it's entirely stateless and act as a proxy translating S3 call onto whatever you have connected in the oth…

Is this some dark pattern or what? https://imgur.com/a/WN2Mr1z (UK: https://files.catbox.moe/m0lxbr.png ) I clicked settings, this appeared, clicking away hid it but now I cant see any setting for it. The nasty way of reading that popup, my first way of reading it, was that filestash sends crash reports and usage data, and I have the option to have it not be shared with third parties , but that it is always sent, and…

You're very conscientious, thank you (providing a separate link for UK readers). I hate that it's come to this.

Re: MinIO repository is no longer maintained

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Post by throwaway894345 »

Ensorceled wrote: post #169
bojangleslover wrote: post #55

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Completely different situations. None of the MinIO team worked for free. MinIO is a COSS company (commercial open source software). They give a basic version of it away for free hoping that some people, usually at companies, will want to pay for the premium features. MinIO going closed source is a business decision and there is nothing wrong with that. I highly recommend SeaweedFS. I used it in production for a long…

> > Working for free is not fun. Having a paid offering with a free community version is not fun. Ultimately, dealing with people who don't pay for your product is not fun. > Completely different situations. None of the MinIO team worked for free. MinIO is a COSS company (commercial open source software). MinIO is dealing with two out of the three issues, and the company is partially providing work for free, how is t…

“I don’t want to support free users” is completely different than “we’re going all-in on AI, so we’re killing our previous product for both open source and commercial users and replacing it with a new one”

Re: MinIO repository is no longer maintained

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Post by bityard »

muragekibicho wrote: post #18

I ran a moderately large opensource service and my chronic back pain was cured the day I stopped maintaining the project. Working for free is not fun. Having a paid offering with a free community version is not fun. Ultimately, dealing with people who don't pay for your product is not fun. I learnt this the hard way and I guess the MinIO team learnt this as well.

> Working for free is not fun.

Why were you doing it then?

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