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Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Most screenshots for these well known guys are quite boring. Coincidence? I think if you want to be good at something you need focus.

So you're telling me my juiced-up i3 with the anime girl and equalizer in the background doesn't make me the hacker wizard I thought I was?

Everything is OK. I love looking at desktops, but I became old to put the effort. I think you are a bard more than a wizard.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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I'm going to be rude now, but I don't mean it to be taken that way. "I know a guy with a leg missing, and he can still run, so clearly someone who has lost their legs is able". I have had the discussion a bunch of times, I'm beginning to think that nobody other than me has spent a significant amount of time with severely autistic people. Yes, some autistic people can mask quite well, and, some are mild cases. But the…

This isn't even rude.

Calling a spade a spade is already considered rude in some cultures/contexts, so I think the most you could say is "this isn't even rude from my perspective".

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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RMS is an extremist, and not the kind of person I tend to agree with, he seems to be a bit of an asshole too... But that's also the kind of people we need. Companies are not going to compromise on their profits, we need someone to balance that and not compromise on software freedom. With these two extremes we can take an balanced position and that's how we got Linux and distros like Debian: it is free software, but i…

I lived a year in a great hostel run by a German girl in Mexico. She was always planning social events, hyping the place so that it was full of interesting people, and more. It was the most social part of my life even though I was 30. But she also was frantic and obsessive and short tempered which was off putting. Other guests would often complain about her, and they would phrase it as if she’d be cool if only she co…

> We aren’t a bunch of independent levers that we get to adjust. Yet for some reason we pretend like that’s the case.

I've noticed this too, and my pet theory is that it's yet another toxic side effect of pervasive consumerism. We get so used to being able to find that one product whose feature list is exactly what we want, that we end up carrying that same micro-managing expectation into other areas of life. We've lost the ability to appreciate things holistically.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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He was using text mode at the time in 2002. The term has something of a technical meaning that he was likely referencing. To be precise: 1. He was using a virtual console (ie. what you get when you press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and similar if using X), not an X terminal. 2. The virtual console was very likely not using a framebuffer (which would be a graphics mode), but was in fact just the Linux kernel's standard text mode outp…

Either script(1) or ttyrec(1). But you have to run these before. Also, I'm pretty sure tty dumping tools (as root) do exist, this is Unix after all.

Those still only work for text. What I'm trying to say is that it's possible Stallman was considering that "screenshot" means "dumping a graphics buffer to disk". In the case of text mode without the framebuffer, there is no graphics buffer to dump (at least, not one that's accessible on the computer), therefore the best you can do is dumping a text buffer instead.

You can of course synthesize a new image based on the contents of that text buffer (and that would almost certainly have been fine for the purposes of the question), but you can't dump a graphics buffer that doesn't exist.

He would absolutely have known about script(1).

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Can someone identify what font Bram Moolenaar was using in 2015 screen shot?

Looks like Liberation Mono or Cousine or similar.

It looks like Liberation Mono. Cousine has a specific "r" and it does not match.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Wrong. Knowing to customize a theme != knowing to use a computer != knowing how computers work. I can say I know computers and how they work pretty well, but these days I have much better things to do to learn the best way to themes my shell so that it matches my waybar, and that both switch colourscheme when dark mode activates. I could learn if I wanted, but I’m not a teenager anymore; I don’t care. Incidentally, w…

This. Nowadays I just use Zukitre for GTK/Qt and the Tango icon theme, it suits TWM/CWM and any other minimal WM without tons of effort. A dull gray theme combines with everything, even with my Cyan titlebars for TWM (they make a great contrast with red borders and wheat yellow icons/menus). You know, I want to use my computers and the titlebars stand out like crazy. And, actually, I've just borrowed an old color con…

I love nature pictures, so I collected a few from all seasons, and now all my customization is every 3 months to change which season’s wallpapers to rotate from.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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post #161

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I'm going to be rude now, but I don't mean it to be taken that way. "I know a guy with a leg missing, and he can still run, so clearly someone who has lost their legs is able". I have had the discussion a bunch of times, I'm beginning to think that nobody other than me has spent a significant amount of time with severely autistic people. Yes, some autistic people can mask quite well, and, some are mild cases. But the…

> nobody other than me has spent a significant amount of time with severely autistic people. Yes, most people have not met someone with more than mild autism. I think the other issue is that people are confused as to _what_ autism is (it doesn't help that its a massive fucking spectrum) For most people, meeting a dutch grandmother for the first time would assume that they count as autistic. I run a "uniformed organis…

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Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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I don't think it's ever been KDE.

It seems you're right, and now I'm wondering how I ever thought otherwise...

Indeed it is strange. Red Hat is more or less considered the corporate steward/benefactor of modern Gnome.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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The old Mozilla icon on a screenshot (2002) caught my attention. I searched for it and confirmed it was inspired by communist aesthetic https://www-archive.mozilla.org/party/2002/

Previously:

https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/10/they-live-and-the-secret-hi...>

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12814590>

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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I strongly disagree. I don't know whether he would identify himself as a communist politically, but it doesn't matter. Furthermore, I am entitled to analyze his ideas and classify them as I please. And as far as I'm concerned, he is arguing about fruits of labor being free in the typical “comrade” idealization from communism. If at least he was actually doing what he preaches, one could be charitable. But actually he…

1. Stallman has never, ever argued that fruits of labor should be free. He's always and only focused on knowledge: software, manuals, books for school, etc. In particular he's been against closed software of appliances and hardware you buy. If you buy a printer you should also own it fully and be able to modify it the way you please, which requires access to its software. He's never talked about services or physical…

Software, manuals, books, and knowledge in general are fruits of labor. It is not physical labor but labor nonetheless. Otherwise how would you reconcile software developers getting paid (as well as pretty much any intellectual profession)?

The argument against appliances isn't any good. You are not entitled to getting access to the schematic and inner workings of things you buy. By this logic, everything should come with the full blueprint and documentation on the production process. You are free to choose to buy things that are more open, and it is indeed a desirable quality for the consumer, but definitely not a right. Without closed-source software, ubiquitous computing would not exist. When you buy a printer, it is working as is, as described with the limitations that are laid out. You are free to keep using it as long as it is functional with the computer/OS it was designed for. You are free to make your own printer or select a brand that offers full firmware access if this is important to you.

As for the psych thing, I never said it was full determinism, and I really don't want to argue about it with you. The point I am making has nothing to do with social skills. In the story of the OP, Stallman gave zero shits about him unless he wanted to buy some of his manuals. This is both hilarious and hypocritical for a dude who spends all day arguing about making “free” software. It maps perfectly to the experience of anyone who has to deal with people who are communist in spirit. They'll argue about sharing everything to never contribute anything or the minimum they can get away with. It is not a subtle effect, and the more communist they are, the worse it is.

In fact, the thing I get out of this is that my first statement was perfectly accurate. Predictably, you got worked up about it because Stallman is an idol, and you are some sort of Marxist-derived ideologue, and your feelings got hurt. It seems very likely that you are also yourself an asshole. Not that I wouldn't buy you a beer to listen to your comrade fantasies (they're very entertaining, like fantasy novels), I don't strongly discriminate against assholery, but if it walks like a duck, I call it a duck. In French the word I would use is “enfoiré", the literal translation is indeed “asshole” or “bastard,” but the meaning I'm trying to convey is "personne malfaisante, déloyale" which roughly translates to "deleterious and dishonest person." And this is a perfect description for Stallman's behavior as well as the vast majority of communists. It's not like there wasn't extensive literature/proofs on the subject…

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