If I want AI, I'll get AI. I don't need you to shove it down my throat.
Not to mention it's mostly inconsistent trash.
Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
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Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
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It’s partly that, but it’s also partly that the quality SUCKS. I’m frustrated with AI blogspam because it doesn’t in any way help me figure out whatever I’m researching. It’s such low quality. What I want and need is higher quality primary sources — in depth research, investigation, presented in an engaging way. Or with movies and shows, I want something genuine. With a genuine story that feels real, characters that…
Ironically, AI blogspam, because it’s disingenuous and because Google’s PageRank has been fully defeated by spam (and Search ruined further by Google’s ads) in general, has ruined the web for research. It means that you are usually better off now asking a flagship model your research questions. Let it search and provide sources. You can always tell it the sorts of sources you consider reliable.
And that will work for a year or so before some grubby ad department shovels buckets of cash at an LLM and the models get retuned.
Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
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It’s partly that, but it’s also partly that the quality SUCKS. I’m frustrated with AI blogspam because it doesn’t in any way help me figure out whatever I’m researching. It’s such low quality. What I want and need is higher quality primary sources — in depth research, investigation, presented in an engaging way. Or with movies and shows, I want something genuine. With a genuine story that feels real, characters that…
I experimented with some ai generated political spam on YouTube. The reality is a lot of people can’t tell the difference or don’t care. Given the demographic this site selects for, it’s easy to forget how many dumb people there are in the world.
You kidding? This site doesn't let me forget
Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
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People are crying out for an intelligent Clippy to help them through the day. (Or maybe that little dog they used for a while, though don't know its name)
Was the dog ever the default? There were like 10 or so appearances you could change clippy to and the dog was one of them but clippy was the default so is the one people remember
Just looked it up and the dog was named "Rover" (another classy name from Microsoft). Rover was an option when introduced in "Microsoft Bob", but then later became the default search companion in XP's file search.
Also, we have Rover to blame for Comic Sans:
> Microsoft graphic designer Vincent Connare designed the typeface Comic Sans when he noticed that Rover's speech was displayed in Times New Roman, which he felt was inappropriate for a cartoon dog.
Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
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> It's not that people are unimpressed with AI - they're just tired of constantly being bombarded with it, and it sneaking its way into where it's not wanted. Does anyone here know what this arguing tactic is called? It's used by tech leadership all over the world, all the time. Weaponized obtuseness, maybe? The core of it is that you always have to pretend that everyone is basically on board with what you're doing,…
Maybe a subtle form of gaslighting with features of victim blaming and argument from authority? Microsoft treats its users and customers with utter contempt. I hope Valve takes this opportunity to turn its toehold with Steam OS into a full-blown invasion of the desktop/laptop market and destroy Microsoft's monopoly while the latter is so focused on creating everything an actual user doesn't want: - virulent data mini…
It is very encouraging that Xbox is dying right at the moment that windows is trying to kill itself and Valve is moving in for the kill. For the first time in my entire life i know normies talking about running Linux on their desktops
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I wouldnt mind if the conversations actually were smart, not sycophantic, or were otherwise useful. I find more often than not it creates more work for me than it saves me, and even if i were to break even on time invested i lose massively on comprehension/understanding.
I'd rather see this technology being used as a method of input and control of the machine, just like keyboard, mouse and monitor is. Without humanized bits of conversation or suggestions, exaggerated remarks like "Got it!" - you would ask OS to preform a task and it would do what was told. And if I'd want to have a specific question or task I'd use some dedicated application that would stay dormant up until used.
Star Trek computer remains the ultimate ideal.
Basically sums up why i don't use any kind of voice assistant still. Until the computer can DO exactly and precisely what i asked -- not what it's faulty recognition model thinks i asked -- there's zero point to trying to talk to it
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I caught my mom watching a bunch of AI impersonations of musicians on Youtube singing slop that rarely rhymed or had any kind of message in the lyrics and with super formulaic arrangements. I asked her what she liked about them and it was like "they seem well made" and I showed her how easy Suno is to use and then showed her some of the bad missed rhymes and transcribed the lyrics to where she could see there wasn't…
The issue is that one could reasonably argue that about 95% of pop music is was already formulaic slop. Not just pejoratively, but much of it was even made by the same people. Everybody from Britney Spears to Taylor Swift and more modern acts are all being driven by one guy - 'Max Martin'. [1] Once you see the songs he's credited with, you instantly start to realize it's painfully formulaic, but most people are happy…
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Well, Blizzard is Microsoft now so I guess they belong together. Ironically though, Diablo Immortal was a huge commercial success despite the tone deaf announcement. I don't think MS will experience the same though. They're quickly going to be left with the only people using windows are those who are forced by their employer, no one will willingly choose it over other options.
I think what people misunderstand is that this is probably an active goal of theirs. Similar to how Microsoft has decided there's no money to be made in console hardware and is trying to spin their Xbox brand into a software service brand they can slap on other things, I think they've decided that making a consumer OS has no money in it, and all the minmaxing of squeezing at the moment is them trying to extract the l…
It seems like they had the right idea with Windows 10 (our consumer OS is now just a loss-leader we put out for free as a way to market Office/OneDrive/Visual Studio etc) but they've completely about-faced with 11. Which yeah, could be a sign they're wanting to kill the consumer segment i guess.
Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
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> It's not that people are unimpressed with AI Oh no, I am definitely unimpressed. That AI you can have a sorta-kinda fluent conversation with is often a complete moron and a habitual liar, and the images it generates are awful - did he not see how horrible that Coke ad looked? It'll probably end up useful in a bunch of applications soon-ish and I'll probably want to use it eventually, but in the meantime their AI is…
Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if in a year or two we start seeing bans on AI because of the tactics of these corporations. And I mean full-on blunt instrument legal bans on any use or creation of the things. Nobody will care about the nuances of AI, and that the AIs nobody talk about is actually doing some neat things. The very things these corporations are doing with AI is, I suspect, ultimately going to doom it…
Way too many people out there like my boss completely hooked on letting LLMs write all their emails (and letting all us scratch our heads trying to figure out what they mean)
Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash
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It’s partly that, but it’s also partly that the quality SUCKS. I’m frustrated with AI blogspam because it doesn’t in any way help me figure out whatever I’m researching. It’s such low quality. What I want and need is higher quality primary sources — in depth research, investigation, presented in an engaging way. Or with movies and shows, I want something genuine. With a genuine story that feels real, characters that…
> AI is fake, it feels fake, and it’s obvious. It’s mind blowing to me that executives think people want fake crap. I'm not sure if they actually think that. I think it's more likely it's some combination of 1) saying what they need to say based on their goals (I need to sell this, therefore I will say it's good and it's something you should want) and 2) a contempt for their audience (I'm a clever guy and I can make…
My problem with 2) is: it works. If you look at most movies; both the way they are made and the stories they tell is really subpar these days and this has grown worse in the last decade or so. It's not the fact that CGI is used, it's the really lazy and sloppy way that it's used. Same goes for the stories: there are so few films that have a real story to tell that I have mostly stopped watching movies at all.
There's this YT channel - Like Stories of Old - I love who made an episode precisely on that topic: https://youtu.be/tvwPKBXEOKE?si=180Wkylrx-L5zOsI He calls it the haptic of a movie.
I'm totally convinced the industry can sell AI generated media just fine, even with the attitude you described.
EDIT: in similar vein the settings of movies/series are equally minimised, particularly in fantasy. Take for example Game of Thrones, Winterfell. This setting could never have worked in reality and yet people loved it. Brett Deveraux pointed out how silly it was and still.https://acoup.blog/2019/07/12/collections-the-lonely-city-pa...