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And people wonder why Luigi Mangione had such wide appeal for so many people. It's not that what he chose to do was morally right (personally I dont condone it at all), more that he represented someone trying to do something about the disease you mention.
My dad could still be alive, but he's not
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Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
Melbourne has an excellent ambulance response time (defined from the moment 000 call is received to when the first ambulance resource arrives on scene): * Average Code 1 response time: 12 minutes 47 seconds * Code 1 responses within 15 minutes: 77.2% * Number of Code 1 first responses: 12,375 This places Melbourne among the faster councils in the state, and well ahead of the statewide average response time. Source: T…
Perhaps my understanding here is lacking, but that doesn't sound good at all. Feels like if someone has some sort of cardiac event, or, worse, isn't breathing, by the time the ambulance gets there, they'll be dead, with too much brain death for any resuscitation effort to be worth it.
Still, you feel like you are having a heart attack, call 911 (in the US) right away. The main time killer is probably just you recognizing that you need help (vs the time it takes to get help once called).
Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not
#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lol the idea that a scamster will only pull one scam in their life is such a gullible position hahaha.
> Lol the idea that a scamster will only pull one scam in their life is such a gullible position hahaha. The doctor gets paid irrespective of their diagnosis—and I am yet to hear of a conspiracy where the doctor makes more money when their patients die.
Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
Melbourne has an excellent ambulance response time (defined from the moment 000 call is received to when the first ambulance resource arrives on scene): * Average Code 1 response time: 12 minutes 47 seconds * Code 1 responses within 15 minutes: 77.2% * Number of Code 1 first responses: 12,375 This places Melbourne among the faster councils in the state, and well ahead of the statewide average response time. Source: T…
Perhaps my understanding here is lacking, but that doesn't sound good at all. Feels like if someone has some sort of cardiac event, or, worse, isn't breathing, by the time the ambulance gets there, they'll be dead, with too much brain death for any resuscitation effort to be worth it.
Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not
#245It's not moloch. It's all health systems, even ones that are religiously oriented. Triage and logistics and having enough trained people working all hours to handle all cases of life threatening situations... it's a bug in all systems. Nothing is scarier than the moment you realize you're in the hands of the medical establishment. Whatever that looks like, wherever you are. Ever tried to rush a mechanic to fix your c…
> It's not moloch. It's all health systems, even ones that are religiously oriented. The moloch reference is a shibboleth for the rationalist community. It’s not an actual religious reference. There’s another reference to “updating” further down which is another rationalist term meaning “updating your priors”.
Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not
#246If you have an emergency when no one else has one, you can get a quick response. If there happens to be three other emergencies in your area at the same time, then the response time may be very slow.
Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not
#247I can speak to this. I recently joined a community first responder association (I've always wanted to know what to do in case of a medical emergency) and was shocked to hear the members' horror stories of how long it can take an ambulance to arrive. Like the author, I grew up with the narrative "in trouble, call the ambulance, they'll scream through the streets to get to you in moments". That might still be true wher…
Melbourne has an excellent ambulance response time (defined from the moment 000 call is received to when the first ambulance resource arrives on scene): * Average Code 1 response time: 12 minutes 47 seconds * Code 1 responses within 15 minutes: 77.2% * Number of Code 1 first responses: 12,375 This places Melbourne among the faster councils in the state, and well ahead of the statewide average response time. Source: T…
I can drive to an ED within 3-5 minutes.
This report doesn’t make me feel good.
Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not
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Causes harm is the hard thing to know. In the London Grenfell fire the dispatchers said stay in the appartment. This is correct advice, except when some dodgy supply chain middleman puts effectively what amounts to gunpowder up all the external walls.
It's like we're wired to trust what we're told over what we see. The one doing the telling is the confident man on tv and the people around us. What's funny is, 9 out of 10 people are totally credulous. They'll swallow any foolish thing as long as a authority says it. That last guy is a skeptic. BUT if everybody around him AND the authority are saying the thing, then he believes it. Because that's reasonable, right?
The clear enemy authority figure. I.e. cop wants you to talk. Dont talk.
But then there is the if you do A you might die if you do B you also might die you have no probabilities, just your instinct plus what you are being told to do. And you have 10 seconds to decide.
Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps my understanding here is lacking, but that doesn't sound good at all. Feels like if someone has some sort of cardiac event, or, worse, isn't breathing, by the time the ambulance gets there, they'll be dead, with too much brain death for any resuscitation effort to be worth it.
Yes, I believe your understanding is lacking. Ambulances are dispatched for other medical emergencies as well. Compared to many other parts of Australia and even the world, the response time statistics claimed are very good. Sadly, A heart attack can be fatal even with immediate medical intervention at a hospital. A defibrillator can only correct certain kinds of abnormal heart electrical activity. In my experience a…
Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps my understanding here is lacking, but that doesn't sound good at all. Feels like if someone has some sort of cardiac event, or, worse, isn't breathing, by the time the ambulance gets there, they'll be dead, with too much brain death for any resuscitation effort to be worth it.
Cardiac events don’t usually work like that. You could, for example, get permanent damage if your heart attack isn’t treated within 30 minutes (as a guideline, the circumstances vary heavily). Even an aneurism doesn’t often act quicker than 20 minutes. But ya, sub 10 minute response times only happen in a hospital, sub 1 minute response times in intensive care, etc… Still, you feel like you are having a heart attack,…