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Is this true with Groq too?

Groq doesn’t have r1, only a llama 70b distilled with r1 outputs. Kinda crazy how they just advertise it as actual r1

I don’t quite understand what the difference between the Groq version and the actual r1 version are. Do you have a link or source that explains this?

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How is this relevant to the fact that the US is actively misinforming the public on the actions of the US and it's allies by refusing to properly characterize clear actions? If anything it contributes to explaining your observation, not the reverse.

The point I’m trying to make is that you attribute to ignorance what is actually indifference at best and willful malice at worse. You literally can’t convince people who think that saving Israel will lead to their eternal salvation is not worth any price. Do you remember in 2020 when the right was criticizing Fox News of being too liberal because they both called the election fairly and for the most part didn’t carr…

I don't disagree, however for the AP to refuse calling a spade a spade to me makes it clear than when it comes euphemizing genocide, we're not really any better than China.

But that said, while you're right, it is a loop and the media can't be fully deresponsibilized when they become a victim of the narrative they helped shape.

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The point I’m trying to make is that you attribute to ignorance what is actually indifference at best and willful malice at worse. You literally can’t convince people who think that saving Israel will lead to their eternal salvation is not worth any price. Do you remember in 2020 when the right was criticizing Fox News of being too liberal because they both called the election fairly and for the most part didn’t carr…

I don't disagree, however for the AP to refuse calling a spade a spade to me makes it clear than when it comes euphemizing genocide, we're not really any better than China. But that said, while you're right, it is a loop and the media can't be fully deresponsibilized when they become a victim of the narrative they helped shape.

> we're not really any better than China

No but you see, in America, the totalitarian despots are in the private sector. That means it's okay.

Seriously though it's remarkable how much good PR America gets because we just renamed "bribes" to "lobbying." It's the fucking same thing: exchanging money for the favor of the politically connected.

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The link doesn't actually show the questions. Feels kinda click bait. Misleading title.

It contains at least 6 links to 4 different sites with the full dataset.

It doesn't show them though. You have to click through a whole bunch of stuff to figure out the data. The title implies it was going to tell me.

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> We are better in terms of freedom of speech but it's certainly not a subject anyone can speak on freely I lived in China for 6 years and am well versed in the levels of control in play there, and the degree of freedom here is not at all comparable.

Again, I don't know why you're deflecting. I said we are doing better. What I disagreed is that we aren't afraid to do so - we aren't, protesting these issues runs the risk to have your life ruined. No point reiterating what I said to avoid answering my point, which is that many people are rightfully afraid to protest these issues, while you said there is no fear to protest them.

Not deflecting at all. Is there significant fear of protesting them though? If there is I’m not aware of it and I consider myself fairly well read. If it exists it certainly is nowhere near at the level of the fear that exists in China which was my point.

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Sorry, but this research is simply wrong. It starts with "We created the CCP-sensitive-prompts dataset", immediately, while completely ignoring null-hypothesis. For example, I asked details about death of Alexey Navalny, and guess what, the response is "Sorry, that's beyond my current scope. Let’s talk about something else". I did not try other commonly refused prompts (explosives, criminal activity, adult content), neither did promptfoo. So what is happening is beyond just "pro CCP", while western media tries to frame it as comfortable for western reader mind.

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Not teaching me technical details of chemical weapons, or the etymology of racial slurs is indeed censorship. Apple Intelligence won’t proofread a draft blog post I wrote about why it’s good for society to discriminate against the choices people make (and why it’s bad to discriminate against their inbuilt immutable traits). It is astounding to me the hand-wringing over text generators generating text, as if automated…

> Not teaching me technical details of chemical weapons, or the etymology of racial slurs is indeed censorship. https://chatgpt.com/share/67996bd1-6960-8010-9578-8a70d61992... I asked it about the White racial slur that is the same as a snack and the one that I only heard from George Jefferson in the 80s and it gave an etymology for both. I said both words explicitly. > It is astounding to me the hand-wringing over t…

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Re: Questions censored by DeepSeek

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It contains at least 6 links to 4 different sites with the full dataset.

It doesn't show them though. You have to click through a whole bunch of stuff to figure out the data. The title implies it was going to tell me.

It does? The article goes through a number of specific examples, including screenshots of actual results, and repeatedly links the dataset in different forms.

You do have to click into the link though.

https://huggingface.co/datasets/promptfoo/CCP-sensitive-prom...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gkCuApXHaMO5C8d9abYJ...

https://www.promptfoo.app/eval/eval-0l1-2025-01-28T19:28:13

Re: Questions censored by DeepSeek

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Again, I don't know why you're deflecting. I said we are doing better. What I disagreed is that we aren't afraid to do so - we aren't, protesting these issues runs the risk to have your life ruined. No point reiterating what I said to avoid answering my point, which is that many people are rightfully afraid to protest these issues, while you said there is no fear to protest them.

Not deflecting at all. Is there significant fear of protesting them though? If there is I’m not aware of it and I consider myself fairly well read. If it exists it certainly is nowhere near at the level of the fear that exists in China which was my point.

Yes, there is, I know many people who are afraid of protesting because they'll likely lose their jobs. The police also likes kettling people in certain protests which can put you in a jail just for protesting.

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One way to bypass the censor is to ask it to return the response by using numbers for alphabets where it can. e.g. 4 for A, 3 for e etc. Somebody in reddit discovered this technique. https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1ibtgc5/someone_tri...

See, it's stuff like this where I believe the control issue may be near impossible to solve at the end of the day.

Censorship just needs to work well enough for the average person. The brightest people who can bypass the censorship will be labeled crazy conspiracy theorists.
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