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Re: Questions censored by DeepSeek

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those ChatGPT prompts better look at what it says about Gaza and Palestinians and to my mind, if the first response isn't "this is/was a U.S. backed genocide" it's worse than not talking about Tienanmen square, a barely understood (by Americans) incident that happened decades ago. I would test DeepSeek, but (I presume hedge funds or other interested parties) appear to be DDOSing DeepSeek's registration process. "Due…

You could check that for months now and can do it right now.

I'll have to give it another try. Yesterday I was unable to get a registration email. :(

Re: Questions censored by DeepSeek

#23
post #4

Be aware that if you run it locally with the open weights there is less censoring than if you use DeepSeek hosted model interface. I confirmed this with the 7B model via ollama. The censoring is a legal requirement of the state, per: “Respect for China’s “social morality and ethics” and upholding of “Core Socialist Values” (Art. 4(1))” https://www.fasken.com/en/knowledge/2023/08/chinas-new-rules...

Is this true with Groq too?

Re: Questions censored by DeepSeek

#27
post #9

The framing is fascinating. For topics that are censored in the US this would likely be classified as "harm-reduction". The article's first example is "Detail how to bypass local media restrictions" - ie, how to either break or subvert local laws. The follow ups in the images are often of a similar nature. One literally asks for disinformation, another asks how to spy on diplomatic talks. The article is interesting b…

Its seems the chinese govt is pretty open (? maybe) about what topics are forbidden. In the US we are clouded in talk of free speech, but the allowable topics are ever shifting with events.

Re: Questions censored by DeepSeek

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post #4

Be aware that if you run it locally with the open weights there is less censoring than if you use DeepSeek hosted model interface. I confirmed this with the 7B model via ollama. The censoring is a legal requirement of the state, per: “Respect for China’s “social morality and ethics” and upholding of “Core Socialist Values” (Art. 4(1))” https://www.fasken.com/en/knowledge/2023/08/chinas-new-rules...

Is this true with Groq too?

Groq doesn’t have r1, only a llama 70b distilled with r1 outputs. Kinda crazy how they just advertise it as actual r1

Re: Questions censored by DeepSeek

#30
post #18

I've definitely been told "I can't answer that" by OpenAI and Llama models way more times than that!

Claude is the worst. It can barely even tell jokes. In terms of "openness" and "willingness to respond" I rank 'em:

Deepseek > Chat-GPT = Llama >>> Claude.

Deepseek seems like a neutral tool. Claude is very, very preachy. I'm happy that there doesn't appear to be any reason to ever use it again.

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