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Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by flyingswift »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #178
isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

> Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. Microsoft can't brand anything cleanly and unambiguously. "MSN Messenger" / "Windows Messenger" / "Windows Live Messenger" / "Microsoft Lync" "Internet Explorer" / "Windows Explorer" / "MSN Explorer" Windows 95 email client "Exchange" / email server platform "Exchange" "Outlook" / "Outlook Web Access" / "Outlook Web App" / "Outlook.com" / "new Outlook for Windows" "…

Team Foundation Server -> Visual Studio Team Services -> Azure DevOps

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by amai »

tk90 wrote: post #60

The "Recall" part is interesting - I wonder if they're running RAG locally to achieve that? Interested to see how it works under the hood...

I also would be interested about this. Because I somehow expect that this screen logging feature is ripe for a security disaster. This is not just your browser history. Imagine a video of everything you ever did on your PC ending up in the internet.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by michaelbuckbee »

isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

It's a real shame as well since the Surface line of PCs started as such a clean break and has devolved into a confusing mess.

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Post by shmerl »

drevil-v2 wrote: post #87

Being the designated "tech" person for my extended family and friends circle, I don't think I could recommend this to any of them because of the privacy nightmare. At least with Apple you have a single vendor who is vertically integrated and makes a huge song and dance about data privacy. Even if you discount their PR and marketing spin, IMHO you are still miles ahead of the likes of Microsoft + (pick one) HP, Asus,…

Privacy oriented users are already using Linux.

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Post by user_7832 »

genewitch wrote: post #217
JaneLovesDotNet wrote: post #188

There's a little mention that's easy to miss: > With a powerful new emulator, Prism, your apps run great, whether native or emulated. Curious to hear more about what strides they've made there. UPDATE: Found more details here -> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/microsoft-says-prism... 10-20% faster emulation

I ran windows under qemu, with a GPU, and a dedicated soundcard, and multi-monitor for years - even though ostensibly there was a 10-15% "overhead" due to emulation/virtualization. I had exactly zero issues, and to be quite frank i couldn't tell any difference in framerates, especially compared to my windows laptop running the same games with roughly equivalent GPUs.

Could you share a little more about your setup? I assume a linux host, and perhaps 2 GPUs with one per OS? I'm guessing it's a desktop build and not a laptop (iGPU+dGPU)?

I've really wanted to switch fully to linux, but I still use some "power" features in MS Office which apparently don't play nice on linux. Dualbooting Fedora is decent... when I can understand what's happening and don't need to go 4 layers deep every time I have a problem, unfortunately.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by onemoresoop »

whalesalad wrote: post #205
isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

microsoft is KING of doing this sort of thing.

The great king of klusterfuck, I agree

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Post by arresin »

runevault wrote: post #236
isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

dotnet for me is the most obvious example of how terrible they are at branding. First there was .NET framework which was windows only (note I'm ignoring Xamarian because it was originally not owned by MS). Then they decided to do a reboot with cross platform support and named that Dotnet Core. This was honestly fine. But then we reach late in the 3.x timeframe and they declare for real and for true that Framework is…

Watch how they change it again next year to dotnet (all lower case) AI core.
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