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Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by psadauskas »

ericmcer wrote: post #233
Buttons840 wrote: post #231

The recent World Happiness Report[0] concluded: > In many but not all regions, the young are happier than the old. But in North America happiness has fallen so sharply for the young that they are now less happy than the old. By contrast, in the transition countries of Central and Eastern Europe, the young are much happier than the old. In Western Europe as a whole happiness is similar at all ages, while elsewhere it…

I have a 14 year old and the content of social media seems to be what bums her out. She seems to be ingrained with the idea that she will never own a home, environmental disasters will be constant and the economy will be in shambles by the time she reaches adulthood. Maybe America just has a uniquely depressive social media environment? I have not read any kind of large scale studies examining the "tone" of social me…

> she will be able to buy a house if she wants one, the economy will always be good for people who are work smart and hard, etc.

Yeah, I don't think that's true at all. Its just anecdata, but I have several friends in their 30s for which that's just not the case. They're smart and work (harder than I do, just not in tech), but the price of a down payment on a home is going up faster than they're able to save, and they already live relatively frugally. We live in a major metro area, not a particularly expensive one, but the same is true for most of my cousins in the same age range spread across the country.

I feel like my age group (mid 40s) is the last one that could afford home ownership, and me only because I got lucky by working in tech. Other people I know that are better educated and work harder than me are just shut out of the housing market, without some kind of windfall.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by bananapub »

I do love the US Right's hilariously dishonest obsession with "free speech" and how the rest of the US engages with them as if it is some good faith disagreement.

the Right should also be more worried - requiring the construction of this sort of Technological Autocracy Infrastructure should scare them, since presumably they won't always be in charge. of course the flip side is that a lot of the leaders are Christian Dominionists who aren't worried about that, since they want to end the United States as it currently exists.

anyway, cheery! hope everyone agrees that not letting kids see what Rhianna had for lunch or whatever was worth it.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by darth_avocado »

ericmcer wrote: post #233
Buttons840 wrote: post #231

The recent World Happiness Report[0] concluded: > In many but not all regions, the young are happier than the old. But in North America happiness has fallen so sharply for the young that they are now less happy than the old. By contrast, in the transition countries of Central and Eastern Europe, the young are much happier than the old. In Western Europe as a whole happiness is similar at all ages, while elsewhere it…

I have a 14 year old and the content of social media seems to be what bums her out. She seems to be ingrained with the idea that she will never own a home, environmental disasters will be constant and the economy will be in shambles by the time she reaches adulthood. Maybe America just has a uniquely depressive social media environment? I have not read any kind of large scale studies examining the "tone" of social me…

I am an adult and I have the same concerns. Went to a top university, got a decent job, found a partner who also has a decent job and don't use social media much. Still don't think we would be able to own a home for a while, every time we get close to the financial ability to buy a house, the goal post moves. The economy has always been up and down. We've both seen harsh times economically when companies let people go on a whim. Healthcare is a nightmare. You could have a good job/health insurance most of your life and could be out of one for just a couple months, and if an incident happens in that period, you set yourself back by years in terms of savings. The environment keeps getting worse, considering we actually saw the things get worse in the last 30 years with our own eyes. There is just a perpetual fight to keep your quality of life consistent. Working hard and smart is no longer enough.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by AzzyHN »

Buttons840 wrote: post #231

The recent World Happiness Report[0] concluded: > In many but not all regions, the young are happier than the old. But in North America happiness has fallen so sharply for the young that they are now less happy than the old. By contrast, in the transition countries of Central and Eastern Europe, the young are much happier than the old. In Western Europe as a whole happiness is similar at all ages, while elsewhere it…

Social media certainly doesn't help, but once again, the powers that be find everything to blame except for themselves for creating the conditions of misery necessary for "infinite" growth

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by oliwarner »

scarface_74 wrote: post #223
oliwarner wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

H.B.3 only prohibits these minors holding accounts on social media. They can still browse, as can anyone without an account and age verification. You'd be able to view a business's information, watch videos, etc etc etc, just not create your own. It also has conditions for which sites are affected by this law. The site has to have doomscroll and already be popular with kids. Google Maps isn't what they're targeting.…

The last thing we need is to force everyone to have ID to “protect the children” before I can go on to a site on the internet.

Which is not what anyone is calling for.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by infamouscow »

aNoob7000 wrote: post #2

The law is going to be shot down quickly if it is an undue burden on adults getting access to social media websites and apps.

Virtually every tech company has already been sued under Children's Online Privacy Protection Act.

What makes you think the state law would get struct down in federal court?

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by kccoder »

CSMastermind wrote: post #69
dotnet00 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might as well raise the age of majority to 25, if the brain isn't finished developing they're obviously incapable of handling personal freedom!

I'd unironically support raising the voting age in the US to 25. I was an idiot when I was 18 and had no business picking a leader of any kind. There's something to be said for waiting until people have actual life experience.

Plenty of "idiots" outside the age range of 18-25, should we restrict them as well? How would we determine who is qualified to vote? Any other rights provided by the constitution you'd like to alter while we're at it? What other responsibilities available 18-25 year olds would you like to restrict? The draft, driving a vehicle, taking out loans, ...? Perhaps they shouldn't be allowed to choose their own clothing, what food they eat, ...

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by ttt3ts »

ericmcer wrote: post #233
Buttons840 wrote: post #231

The recent World Happiness Report[0] concluded: > In many but not all regions, the young are happier than the old. But in North America happiness has fallen so sharply for the young that they are now less happy than the old. By contrast, in the transition countries of Central and Eastern Europe, the young are much happier than the old. In Western Europe as a whole happiness is similar at all ages, while elsewhere it…

I have a 14 year old and the content of social media seems to be what bums her out. She seems to be ingrained with the idea that she will never own a home, environmental disasters will be constant and the economy will be in shambles by the time she reaches adulthood. Maybe America just has a uniquely depressive social media environment? I have not read any kind of large scale studies examining the "tone" of social me…

> Maybe America just has a uniquely depressive social media environment?

You might have something here. Given the other responses to your post which are largely unrelated but undeniably depressing. Now I have to go see if such a study exists...

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by [deleted] »

macintux wrote: post #146
alphabettsy wrote: post #81

The biggest problem I see is that we’re now essentially requiring ID to use substantial parts of the internet. So many business only have a Facebook page, Google maps has social features. I already didn’t want a Facebook account just to see a businesses specials, now I’ll need to present ID too? Certainly interested to see how all this plays out.

I’ve gotten by for the last several years without Facebook or Google (I do use a YT account, but not for anything meaningful). It’s annoying, but doable.

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Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by mise_en_place »

aurareturn wrote: post #25

>Critics have said the bill violates the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment protections for free speech and that parents, not the government, should make decisions about the online presence of their children of all ages. It's extremely difficult for parents to stop their children, especially early teens from using social media. This law should make it easier and it would put the work on Meta, Snap, Tiktok, Pinterest…

Yeah it is difficult being a parent. Welcome to parenting and adulthood. The solution isn't more big government and a massive police/surveillance state. It's no wonder Stumpy didn't get too far in the primaries, people could spot his deep state tendencies from a mile away.
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