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Re: LazyVim

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Post by gsinclair »

danjac wrote: post #78

I've been using vim for years, switched to neovim, and at this point I'm ready to throw in the towel and just use vscode for anything beyond simple text editing. The amount of work needed to get a basic IDE up and running for your languages of choice, even for commonly used languages such as Python or Javascript, is far too much for someone who wants to get on with their day job or hobby coding and doesn't want to sp…

I think your experience report of the NeoVim subreddit is severely misrepresentative of reality. I have never seen a RTFM response. Many answers point to exactly which part of the documentation would be helpful. Your Jenga tower of dependencies is much more imagination than fact.

If you want Black to format your Python files on save, write an autocommand. That's what they're there for. If you need help to do that, ask for it.

Or if you don't want to take the trouble to learn how to use (neo)vim, then don't use it; that decision is fine too.

Re: LazyVim

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Post by cersei »

danjac wrote: post #78

I've been using vim for years, switched to neovim, and at this point I'm ready to throw in the towel and just use vscode for anything beyond simple text editing. The amount of work needed to get a basic IDE up and running for your languages of choice, even for commonly used languages such as Python or Javascript, is far too much for someone who wants to get on with their day job or hobby coding and doesn't want to sp…

I don't disagree, it's always a balance of "how much time do I actually want to spend on my workflow vs getting the work done", but I think the only reasonable way to use Vim is to build your environment over time (many years) and have it in source control so that you never have to do it again. You'll still have to keep making updates of course, but that's typically a bit smaller time commitment.

Re: LazyVim

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Post by KRAKRISMOTT »

dumpsterdiver wrote: post #69

I feel like I should be the kind of person who prefers eMacs over vi(m), because I've always been a hotkey maniac. I'm actually not though at all, and I much prefer the simplicity of vim. I already have way too many hotkeys lingering in my brain, especially since I played the game Age of Empires II. I don't play many games these days, and I certainly don't use their hotkeys (I play exclusively on consoles these days,…

Most of the newer Vim distribution are all offshoots of Spacemacs/Spacevim. You can see it clearly in the choices of mnemonic key bindings.

Re: LazyVim

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Post by Francis0xf »

danjac wrote: post #78

I've been using vim for years, switched to neovim, and at this point I'm ready to throw in the towel and just use vscode for anything beyond simple text editing. The amount of work needed to get a basic IDE up and running for your languages of choice, even for commonly used languages such as Python or Javascript, is far too much for someone who wants to get on with their day job or hobby coding and doesn't want to sp…

https://lapce.dev/ might be a good compromise it looks and works practically like vscode and runs well on older hardware

Re: LazyVim

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Post by eptcyka »

p-e-w wrote: post #148
divbzero wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was that expressly written to parody Vim? If so, this line is particularly spot on: > 'left' actually means right

> Was that expressly written to parody Vim? Yes. The advice to turn the yoke upside down is supposed to reference remapping Caps Lock to Escape, without which Vim destroys your pinky on a standard keyboard. But it's the choice of professionals, so what can we do?

What about control+c? Also, I've never used vim without remapping `jj` to .

Re: LazyVim

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Post by ziftface »

altonas wrote: post #76

LazyVim got me back into vim. After years of custom configs and/or heavily editing lunarvim and nvChad I was getting a bit burnt out but decided to give lazyVim a try, and I was absolutely blown away. For the first time a vim setup actually felt like a real IDE. It took about 60 seconds to go from having lazyvim installed to having a fully functional IDE that I could use at work in a real environment. That's the same…

That's interesting to me since I've been using close-to-vanilla lunarvim for the past year and it's been great. I'm just not into customizing my editor much, and only touch my config when I'm annoyed by something. This seems to be your goal as well. Can I ask then what makes lazyvim easier or quicker to set up how you want?

Re: LazyVim

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Post by distcs »

eptcyka wrote: post #245
p-e-w wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Was that expressly written to parody Vim? Yes. The advice to turn the yoke upside down is supposed to reference remapping Caps Lock to Escape, without which Vim destroys your pinky on a standard keyboard. But it's the choice of professionals, so what can we do?

What about control+c? Also, I've never used vim without remapping `jj` to .

Ctrl+C and Esc do not behave the same in all contexts. The correct replacement for Esc is Ctrl+[.

What if you need to type `jj`? Not uncommon to do so while writing math or physics papers. a_{jj}

Re: LazyVim

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Post by divan »

danjac wrote: post #78

I've been using vim for years, switched to neovim, and at this point I'm ready to throw in the towel and just use vscode for anything beyond simple text editing. The amount of work needed to get a basic IDE up and running for your languages of choice, even for commonly used languages such as Python or Javascript, is far too much for someone who wants to get on with their day job or hobby coding and doesn't want to sp…

I had the same pain with NeoVim infrastructure, but AstroNvim/astrocommunity kinda solved it for me.

Re: LazyVim

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Post by Tubbe »

eikenberry wrote: post #102
danjac wrote: post #78

I've been using vim for years, switched to neovim, and at this point I'm ready to throw in the towel and just use vscode for anything beyond simple text editing. The amount of work needed to get a basic IDE up and running for your languages of choice, even for commonly used languages such as Python or Javascript, is far too much for someone who wants to get on with their day job or hobby coding and doesn't want to sp…

An alternative to Neovim or VScode that might be worth checking out is Helix ( https://helix-editor.com/ ). It is a Vim/Kakoune inspired editor that is really starting to hit its stride. I haven't used it extensively yet, but I'm testing using it for development now and am thinking of switching to it full time. It maintains the minimalism of (Neo)Vim while coming with a great builtin setup like VScode. To get a feel…

Without any proper code completion integration (eg. Copilot), and no working plug-in system, Helix unfortunately falls short for my needs.
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