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Post by fluidcruft »

Spivak wrote: post #216
hackernewds wrote: post #186

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What is Lemmy?

One implementation of a Reddit style interface on top of ActivityPub. It's one of the nice things about AP is that whatever interface you like best Twitter/Reddit/RSS can get you access to the same content.

I'm not sure about that entirely. It seems like kbin can federate with both mastodon and lemmy. Lemmy and kbin can federate with each other. But I don't think Lemmy and mastodon can right now. I don't know if that's deliberate or just unimplemented. I will say the kbin/mastodon interactions just seem... strange. Like you see mastodon users but I don't know why I wouldn't just use a mastodon client. But I haven't spent a lot of time directly inside kbin. I prefer the lemmy interface so far. People have described it as lemmy being like old.reddit and kbin being like new.reddit in feel.

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Post by Jenk »

goldenkey wrote: post #197
tourmalinetaco wrote: post #171

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If anything, nature is healing. I’ve noticed at least 1 community return to forums due to all of this ( https://mholdschool.com/ ), and while unfortunately AFAIK there isn’t any good FLOSS software for it, it’s certainly a start.

What happened to vBulletin by Jelsoft? Needs to be open sourced.

https://www.vbulletin.com/

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Post by Sharlin »

nagonago wrote: post #206
dbg31415 wrote: post #141

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> This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :( Totally! The internet was better before pay walls / auth walls. I get why we're here today, and I get that the last phase was just about acquiring an audience, and getting people hooked, and now this part of getting everyone to pay was always the plan, but this part really does suck. Just feels like all the services lined up to start shitting on users at the same…

I remember seeing a documentary way back in 2000 about the internet that said something like "the internet is freely accessible now, but some people believe eventually pay walls will begin to block access to more and more portions of the internet." And I thought how ridiculous, that will never happen, information wants to be free! Well, looks like I was only partially right. Most access is still "free", but at the co…

Ah, the F2P (free-to-play) model. Indeed I’m surprised that microtransactions and pay-to-win type dark patterns have mostly not been adopted on the internet at large. And loot boxes! Can’t forget loot boxes.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by pierat »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #218
darknavi wrote: post #121

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It's extremely rough around the edges but getting into fediverse content (mastodon, kbin, lemmy, etc) has been extremely rewarding to me. It's like twitter and reddit but 15 years ago (and by that I mostly mean it's janky and full of bugs. Just like the web was 15 years ago!)

How does fediverse intend to pay for server/developer cost? For new technologies many smart people work for free as long as it excites them and when it just comes to maintenance and fixing bugs it wouldn't be cheap for any technology with so many moving parts. Also, early adopters donate with much higher probability than when the masses arrive.

I pay $10 a month to my masto instance. They do a superb job.

Is that the best way? No clue. But I'm glad to chip in.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by Terr_ »

darknavi wrote: post #121
nunez wrote: post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

It's extremely rough around the edges but getting into fediverse content (mastodon, kbin, lemmy, etc) has been extremely rewarding to me. It's like twitter and reddit but 15 years ago (and by that I mostly mean it's janky and full of bugs. Just like the web was 15 years ago!)

For me the main barrier is that I want to have portable/roaming control over my IDENTITY, even if the content hosting is (for now) entirely through a system administered by someone else. If I control the identity, I can at least keep local copies and rehost/repost content later.

Instead, it feels like the current Fediverse demands that I make a blind choice to entrust not merely a copy of my content but also my whole future identity to whatever of these current instances looks the most stable/trustworthy at first glance, hoping my choice will be good for 1-5-10-15 years. It's stressful, and then I look into self-hosting, and then I put the whole thing off for another week...

AFAICT I would need to set up a whole federated node of my own in order to get that level of identity-control. Serious question: Is there any technical limitation preventing the admin of an instance from just seizing an particular account and permanently impersonating the original owner?

In contrast, I was hoping/expecting some kind of identity backed by a private asymmetric key. Even if signing every single message would be impractical, one could at least use it to prove "The person bob@banana.instance has the same private key that was used to initialize bob@apple.instance."

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Post by Jenk »

akira2501 wrote: post #154
nunez wrote: post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

> This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :( The internet is fine. The highly centralized businesses that built themselves on the technology are meeting their inevitable end.

> This killed nitter.

I suspect that was the intent.

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Post by jasonmp85 »

zappchance wrote: post #205
tourmalinetaco wrote: post #171

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If anything, nature is healing. I’ve noticed at least 1 community return to forums due to all of this ( https://mholdschool.com/ ), and while unfortunately AFAIK there isn’t any good FLOSS software for it, it’s certainly a start.

There's Discourse[0] [0] https://github.com/discourse/discourse

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Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by qbasic_forever »

hedora wrote: post #151

Uggh. I only use twitter to follow critical (life-and-death) emergency broadcasts from our local fire department. Is there a viable alternative for them to use now that twitter is going to block most of our county’s residents?

I check my local news station's website every day for good local news. It always has a big banner if there's relevant news like a weather warning, big road closure, fire, etc. The website is pure garbage and viewing it with an ad blocker is mandatory, but it at least loads without all the dark patterns like Twitter.

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Post by bombcar »

celsoazevedo wrote: post #24
denysvitali wrote: post #15

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I was confused at first on why a random dude posted a link to a screenshot hosted on Celso Azevedo's website (the Google Camera port index creator). Then I realized... hello there! (:

Hey! Yep, that's me. I was going to host the screenshot on imgur, but I'm not sure if we can trust them anymore...

Someone needs to make a dead simple “clipboard to URL on your server” shortcut/applet/script. If you have a domain you should t need Imgur.

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Post by nashashmi »

This is got to be reversed eventually because Twitter was a public square and now it is a closed square where every tweet is logged on who sees what.

Nearly everybody is going to be getting off of Twitter now. It no longer is what it used to be. A place where celebrities could brag about themselves publicly.

Remember, this is what influenced Facebook to open up and make all of the profiles public.

Mastodon and blue sky here we come.

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