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Why the Dvorak keyboard didn't take over the world (2014) [video]

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Probably the best thing about Dvorak (and similar layouts) is that if you want to do proper touch typing, it is quite possibly easier to learn Dvorak than to learn how to touch type QWERTY. Touch typing QWERTY is a constant uphill battle of using your willpower to force yourself to type correctly, despite the rest of your brain claiming it isn't the optimal way to type on that layout. I don't know that your brain is…

> QWERTY users naturally wander around and have their hands leave the home row and I'm not entirely convinced it's actually wrong. I think you are learning it wrong. It's not hard at all to learn QWERTY with the proper training technique. I took touch typing in High School, back in the 1980's. Even back then I knew I was going to be doing a lot of work with computers so it made sense to take it. It turned out to be t…

Alas, I learned to type as a kid in the 60's

I still avoid looking at the keyboard because in my head i can't find the keys, but my fingers know where to go. :)

Re: Why the Dvorak keyboard didn't take over the world (2014) [video]

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> QWERTY users naturally wander around and have their hands leave the home row and I'm not entirely convinced it's actually wrong. I think you are learning it wrong. It's not hard at all to learn QWERTY with the proper training technique. I took touch typing in High School, back in the 1980's. Even back then I knew I was going to be doing a lot of work with computers so it made sense to take it. It turned out to be t…

> I took touch typing in High School, back in the 1980's. Even back then I knew I was going to be doing a lot of work with computers so it made sense to take it. It turned out to be the most useful class I ever took in school by a wide margin since I've used that skill all day every day for 35 years. Same. It's like the one high school class I use every single day. Do they even offer typing in high school anymore?

Probably goes under the name of "computer applications", but I sure hope so. I'm not a great typist by any means, but I did manage to get out of typing class by taking a little-advertised test. If you could manage 35 WPM, you didn't have to take it.

Re: Why the Dvorak keyboard didn't take over the world (2014) [video]

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As a dvorak user, whatever increase in typing speed is mostly irrelevant, for most of us, our output isn't limited by how fast we can type, but how fast we can think. That being said, a long time ago I took an analysis of one of our code bases, mapped every character onto dvorak and qwerty keyboards to produce heatmaps, and it's startling how much less the fingers have to move on a dvorak keyboard. So if you're lazy,…

> analysis of one of our code bases, mapped every character if your code base is C, is dvorak going to help with all the [^A-Za-z]* punctuation characters? That's what slows me down.

I use the programmer variant of dvorak. The number keys are 'swapped' with symbols, so you press shift to access numbers. Given that most programmers (should) use symbols more often than numbers, this is highly convenient. Strongly recommend checking it out.

For the record, I mostly use python nowadays but it's still a big improvement over mashing shift all day.

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I know what you mean, though I question how such a transition would pan out. Any ideas of how well this tends to work as a learning strategy?

I have a friend who did it that way, but I’ve never done it myself.

Does your friend have 4 hands? If so, I would love to see 2 hands do QWERTY and 2 Colemak.

And then swap hands.

Then keyboards behind the back.

Have I taken this joke too far? Or not far enough?

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