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The day Windows died

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I'm surprised he didn't mention having to create an online microsoft account to login to his windows 11 pc.

Probably because you don't have to, you can just skip that step and use a local profile

Microsoft made it much harder in Windows 11 (Home) and then later for even the Pro version. You have to unplug the network and/or drop to shell to run a bypass command.

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I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…

I had a 2018 MBP that also got as hot of the surface of the sun. Literally SCRIBBLING with the pencil on a blank canvas in Corel Painter for 30 seconds would send the CPU to 90 C. I got lucky with the keyboard on mine but I know quite a few people who weren't or were affected by flexgate. You're right about about resale value. Cult of Apple and all that. I get that looks are subjective but personally I find everythin…

> 2018 MBP that also got as hot of the surface of the sun.

Mine has dust, Apple store guys cleaned it and issue was gone.

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As a life-long Windows user, the most frustrating part is how broken search is, and always has been, but… in new and unique ways in every version I’ve ever used! It’s astonishing: they’re clearly working on it, making material changes, but only ever sideways. I’ve never observed an improvement. To those people that say “version x has worked”: I doubt it. Maybe after a month it successfully indexed the 100KB of text i…

>Maybe after a month it successfully indexed the 100KB of text in your start menu Yet another beef of mine. The Search Indexer runs frequently, chews up a lot of CPU, and always engages my fans into turbo mode. I know that 99% of my files at any given moment are identical to the last month. Windows, you have all the hooks to know the last time a file was modified. Stop re-scanning everything forever.

Then they would have to learn about the NTFS change journal[1]. Learning how to program their own operating system would be a step too far.

[1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/chang...

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What distro did you go for? I'm thinking about moving to linux, I'm avoiding a Windows 11 upgrade, and am not a fan of mac.

Mint, because I'm a filthy casual :) I just love Mint, but I think any Debian based distro should work just fine for playing.

I've used some form of *NIX since 1999, almost exclusively.

Began with Red Hat 5. Moved on to Slackware for my server at the time, and Debian for workstations (I also had various MacOS machines as well). Dabbled with Arch for a few years and Manjaro. Recently, I sold all of my Apple equipment and standardized on...Linux Mint.

Mint + Cinnamon DE is simply amazing and even with lower specs on the current laptop I'm running (Thinkpad T460S vs. Apple MBP 2019 i9), the difference is stark. Not to mention rock-solid stable.

No going back for me.

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as a general windows fan, I also hate windows 11. I upgraded my 11 to windows 10, and if windows 12 doesn't resolve this horrible apple/android copy cat nonsense, I will regrettably move to Linux full time. I run kde on hardware for my work computer as the only os on the device for over 2 years now. I still use windows 10 at home for personal computing. kde based Debian is good, better than osx and windows 11 for sur…

Which part is Apple copycat? Seems like they're wrecking it plenty by themselves without needing to take cues from macOS.

I guess centering everything on the taskbar? I mean, one can (and I do) set it back to left alignment, but that’s probably what’s being referred to.

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I just stick with Windows 7.

This is horribly insecure (unless your system is totally air-gapped), now that 7 is EOL. If you're unwilling to put up with Windows 11, then you should switch to Linux.

Windows 7 Extended Security Updates were still there until January 2023, and if you know where to look, there's a guy, I believe he's Ukranian(1), who's been providing the ESU updates for mortals (non-corporate users). But yeah, "Download an EXE provided by a mysterious man to keep your OS 'secure'." isn't really a safe policy.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/u...

(1) The EXEs are signed with a digital signature where the signer's address is Kherson, Ukraine.

Re: The day Windows died

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I am sure I will get all kinds of hate for saying this: despite the extra up front cost, apple stuff is a better value. Lets take device lifetime: I have a 2013 MBP 15 and 2015 MBP 15. I use them for intensive things like music production. Both devices work flawlessly. I also a System 76 Oryx Pro which cost more than any mac I own. The webcam failed 5 months in, several keys don't work anymore, and it gets hotter tha…

I wish more people could have the experience of using Mac and Win11 on a daily basis for real work. I've been developing on Mac/Win11/Linux for 8 years. Win11 vs Mac/Linux is night-vs-day. But you really can't get a sense of how awful windows is without spending serious work time on both Mac & Win. It's not an exaggeration. The simplest things, like remembering settings, switching displays, or setting up hardware, Windows is just garbage. There is such a cumulative cognitive load to using windows vs mac, that it is exhausting. And don't even get me started on developing in windows: the command line always has been and always will be shyte. WSL is a facade.

TL;DR: without actually committing to using both OSes for a solid period, I don't think developers have a clue about how bad Windows is compared to MacOS.

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I dunno. Seems like a boiling frog scenario. They keep adding hoops and one day they'll lock it away. There's no reason they had to wait for the start of the AS transition to do it either. Over the Intel era we saw them lock things down with the introduction of the T1 and T2 chips. AS was another small leap. Maybe M4 will introduce something else like software fuses to prevent rollback or something.

T1 was just for Touch ID. T2 did change a lot, but SIP is still as easy to disable as it was before T2. When Apple Silicon came out with a completely different boot process, they still allowed disabling SIP (and added the ability to do it per OS instead of at a global level), and despite the secure boot, they give you the option to turn that off and boot whatever you want (see Asahi Linux). I doubt they would have pu…

They even made quiet updates that helped the Asahi Linux project. I agree, it’s not going to be totally locked down anytime soon.

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Arguably they'll be learning more valuable skills than some of the schoolwork teaches.

Computers are tools. You're supposed to learn them because they make you better at something else. There is no virtue in being a Linux wizard; if anything it's a stain on Linux that wizards are even a thing.

Every single time I’ve had to poke around my mom’s computer in the last 20 years I’ve come to the conclusion you need to be a Windows Wizard to do even simplish things.

Linux stuff, no problem.

Really depends on what you’re used to, I suppose.

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I had a 2018 MBP that also got as hot of the surface of the sun. Literally SCRIBBLING with the pencil on a blank canvas in Corel Painter for 30 seconds would send the CPU to 90 C. I got lucky with the keyboard on mine but I know quite a few people who weren't or were affected by flexgate. You're right about about resale value. Cult of Apple and all that. I get that looks are subjective but personally I find everythin…

> 2018 MBP that also got as hot of the surface of the sun. Mine has dust, Apple store guys cleaned it and issue was gone.

I don't think dust buildup was an issue out of the box. It always ran hot.
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