Very sluggish and no vim support. It looks promising but I’m going to let it bake for a while.
JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is why one has the IT department configuring development images. I remeber there was a blog post from JetBrains where they complain about VSCode taking over InteliJ market, by indirectly asserting they don't understand why VSCode adoption was rising. Surprise surprise, a couple of months later Fleet was announced.
I'd say they still don't understand why VSCode adoption is rising. There are two reasons: - People don't know better (yes, they really don't) - Language server allowed languages with abysmal tools to finally have some semblance of an IDE None of us know the future, but in my opinion Fleet is a mistake: - It tries to fight VSCode at VSCode's turf (an editor with primitive IDE functionality) - while trying to be a test…
It's not that they don't know better. I'd say it's all down to marketing and sheer numbers in developer mindshare.
This is from my experience: Just listen to most junior developers. They regurgitate and repeat marketing fluff spoken to them by twitter evangelists or twitch developer streams. I just spent the afternoon listening to it and it was sickening. You can't reason or get through to them. Compromise and nuance just feeds their pompous attitude.
/rant
Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program
#243I was hopeful, but after playing with it, I'm not impressed!
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#244I have used JetBrains products for a decade (IntelliJ, Android Studio, WebStorm, PHPStorm). Does this mean that those products are having resources shifted away from them to work on Fleet? I am not a developer who enjoys the 'plugin' mindset and tend to install very few. I prefer Visual Studios over VSCode as well...
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But by far the biggest moat that Jetbrains is going to have to cross to get into VSCode territory is the plugin ecosystem. Personally I work on React projects so my first thought was: "is there a Prettier[1] plugin?". This just reinforces my feeling that a major driver behind VSCode's popularity is that people just don't know better [1] 1. Download WebStorm (or IDEA) and write some React in it. And Typescript. Refa…
>It's leaps and bounds ahead of VSCode It's also paid vs free. For some reason, some people are very reluctant to pay for tools, even though they use them every day in their job.
> For some reason, some people are very reluctant to pay for tools, even though they use them every day in their job.
I used to pay Jetbrains annually, out of my own pocket. I continued paying fir a personal license even after my employer bought me another license. Jetbrains then made a stupid, greedy decision[1] (and walked or back within days), but I was done with them and canceled my subscription.
Since then, my experience/growth, languages tech stacks and codebases have connived to make Jetbrains superior discoverability moot (not using Java!), I found out other IDEs are good enough for me.
1. Some years back, they decided on an IDE-as-a-service path where they were going to brick your IDE the day your subscription lapsed. The fact that they thought this was acceptable and announced it means they cannot be trusted, IMO.
Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program
#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
JetBrains employee here, and I can clarify the point about “Requires login and periodic connection to JetBrains servers to verify the project”. If you are using Fleet in a Free (hobby) mode, we are verifying that the project comply with one of three criteria: 1. your project is local (no Git or Git Remote). 2. your project is public on GitHub. 3. your project is private but has less than 3 committers. In this case, w…
[off topic] Are you guys affected by the situation in Russia, or have all JetBrains employees left the country already?
New office opened in Cyprus, lots of positions open on their site. I assume they are expanding out of Russia.
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#249Instead of coming up with a new project, why just they do not provide a community edition for each of their products? Currently they provide a CE edition for PyCharm only? I remember I loved the initial version of Goland a lot but found out it is not free and expired after a while, I switched back to VSCode and did not regret at all
"Currently they provide a CE edition for PyCharm only?"
If I'm not mistaken, I think they have a CE edition of IntelliJ (java) too.
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#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
They have stated their position really clearly (and much more clearly than most companies): https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2022/03/11/jetbrains-stateme...
I wasn't asking about the company position...
"Suspending R&D" sounds like no work is done in Russia anymore.