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Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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I'm not a lawyer, nor am I an Indian lawyer, but if Razorpay received a Section 91 order ( https://indiankanoon.org/doc/788840/ ) they wouldn't have much choice on turning over any records. It looks to be the rough equivalent of third party doctrine in the US (which is also horrible). It can come from "any Court or any officer in charge of a police station". Banks and fintech in many countries are even more exposed t…

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Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Not quite. Just that the ruler is the law.

That's contrary to the definition of the term. If the ruler is the law, then there is no rule of law.

> If the ruler is the law, then there is no rule of law.

I thought that it was obvious :)

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Rule of law is a joke in India. Center has central agencies and each states has their own police department. So whenever there is a noticeable criticism from someone centre or state govt will send their police/agency your way. You will be detained, put through the worst conditions and false charges will be filed. Most of these charges don't hold in higher courts but the damage is done. You will suffer, a lot. You wil…

After Occam's and Hanlon's razor we have a new - Payments' Razor wherein you opt for a non-compliant, utopic payment method and force this benchmark onto other payment services.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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How is this working against civil forfeiture? How is this working against the % of the population incarcerated? disclaimer: gun owner and competitive sport shooter.

Personally, am convinced that the second amendment was co-opted to be a wedge-issue in that ; it actively separates groups, fills the media with plenty of wedge-based fluff while allowing them to skirt around the deeper truths etc.

My grandpa always used to say:

>>I will never say "I am a gun owner" --

Personally EVERYONE should know how to properly handle a gun. ESPECIALLY if you "hate guns" /rant.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Again Altnews doesn't accept foreign donations. This is from Razorpay page for Altnews. No foreign donations We do not accept foreign remittance as we are not registered under the FCRA Act. Only Indian citizens with Indian bank accounts can donate currently.

You are all across comments section repeating this again and again.

Does a criminal ever accepts his(her) crime?

AltNews is free to write anything on their website OR on their own page on RazorPay, that doesn’t mean a thing.

There are several hundreds other payment processors and ways that they can avail to get money from foreign nations.

As of current state of investigation, Police say that he has already accepted taking money from Pakistan and Syria.

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/alt-news-co-f...

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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I've flagged this because (1) the poster is anonymous and (2) they misrepresent the issue in the title and (3) they seem to have some kind of beef with Razorpay. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=throw_away_1042

> because (1) the poster is anonymous Please rethink this criterion. Those of us who live under authoritarian regimes have to be cautious to protect us from both our governments and members of our society who support them.

Not in the case of an obvious attack. Anonymous cowards I have a problem with, anonymous people who share important information because otherwise their lives are in danger is a different story but this is - contrary to the claims of the author - not one of those, it is simply a very thinly disguised hitpiece. And I'm saying that as someone who has been pretty critical of YC when it comes to certain ethics issues, which - for the most part - they have worked on to improve.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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I've flagged this because (1) the poster is anonymous and (2) they misrepresent the issue in the title and (3) they seem to have some kind of beef with Razorpay. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=throw_away_1042

Anonymous because I worry about my and family's life. I have a real handle, if I use that, I'm almost certain that I will receive death threats and false police cases. The issue is not misrepresented. There was no court order. The said police written request is not contested by Razorypay. Looking at the past tweets from one of the co-founder it is not surprising to see the compliance with the request. https://twitter…

> Anonymous because I worry about my and family's life.

I would be far more ready to believe you if you had stuck to the facts.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Razorpay received a section 91 request and they compliant as per law.

Most importantly, section 91 can be issued by police office such as DSP or SHO.

This post simple some sort of revenge against razorpay.

OP on purpose didn’t mention of section 91 and giving misleading information to YC.

OP also making this about politics. This is very old law and used in a lot cases in the past.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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post #45

I'm not a lawyer, nor am I an Indian lawyer, but if Razorpay received a Section 91 order ( https://indiankanoon.org/doc/788840/ ) they wouldn't have much choice on turning over any records. It looks to be the rough equivalent of third party doctrine in the US (which is also horrible). It can come from "any Court or any officer in charge of a police station". Banks and fintech in many countries are even more exposed t…

I don't think @dang will pin the above comment, but this needs to be higher here as the reply includes that they received a legal order. This is maligning the company unjustly.

Exactly! They received a legal order and company has press release which completely justify action taken.
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