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Post by jnsaff2 »

girvo wrote: post #188
boredumb wrote: post #72

A pile of mid tier content that i'd flick through before exiting out after an episode Automatic previews Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on Horrible comedians that were akin to ted talks/lectures or made for people who don't actually enjoy stand up comedy. Documentaries that were more ideological than interesting Signing and hiring ex politicians Searching is a chore and recomme…

> Searching is a chore While my Siri remote thing makes it a little nicer, the thing that drives me bonkers is searching for an exact title that I know is in their library and getting other results instead of it as the first few results items. Ridiculous.

I guess this is the classic attention economy dark pattern: we know that you already know about this title you are looking for, therefore we want you to take a look at these other things first, just to make you stick to the platform for one more title.

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Post by remus »

qq66 wrote: post #214
ggm wrote: post #119

I'm just here to say how nice the tcp/ip tuning team is. The content may be a battle zone but their internet technology is focussed on tcp optimisations which make sense. They have amazing instrumentation in the kernel, and they give back to FreeBSD. I don't work for them, I have met them. Nice guys.

Netflix had great streaming tech years before anyone else did. I wonder why they decided that the right move was to compete on content. If they had just set up a platform where any content provider could sell their content (on a monthly or one-off basis) for a small cut like 15%, they might have become the default "TV store."

This is basically how they started, as they licensed a lot of content for the platform to begin with. The content providers looked at that juicy monthly revenue and decided they wanted a slice of the action, and now we have Netflix, hbo max, Disney+, Apple TV, Amazon prime and probably a few others I've forgotten. Lots of content, as long as you don't mind subscribing to each one individually!

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Post by hef19898 »

emptysongglass wrote: post #235
dillondoyle wrote: post #164

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Being gay or trans or non binary or whatever is not contagious. There is no reason for differing %, except the trend is very clear: The older the generation the fewer % are out. It's because people are more supported and more able to come out. More people aren't gay. More people are able to live their truth publicly. * and based on your comment I will leap that you aren't a part of this community. The ugly truth is i…

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Did you just actually compare coming out as LGBTQ and sexual identity to conspiracy theories? Come on, you can do better.

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Post by strken »

dillondoyle wrote: post #164
user3939382 wrote: post #155

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Gen Z isn’t the world. US lgbt pop is 7% according to Wikipedia and that sounds high to me, maybe college kids experimenting with their identity in response to woke culture. I’d guess it’s more like 3-4%

Being gay or trans or non binary or whatever is not contagious. There is no reason for differing %, except the trend is very clear: The older the generation the fewer % are out. It's because people are more supported and more able to come out. More people aren't gay. More people are able to live their truth publicly. * and based on your comment I will leap that you aren't a part of this community. The ugly truth is i…

How do you have any idea what's socially determined (a more neutral phrasing than "contagious") and what's not? It's not as if anyone's doing randomised controlled trials of RuPauls Drag Race exposure and gender self-identification.

I don't care why people do anything and I'm generally happy to let them do it, but come on. We have no idea what causes any given person's sexuality or identity to develop in the way it does. The most you can do is point to some correlations. Definitive statements like that are overconfident.

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Post by evocatus »

dillondoyle wrote: post #146
spanktheuser wrote: post #129

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It's telling that the comments calling out people complaining about representation are all greyed out. Sorry. HN has been surprisingly me lately in the viewpoints people are willing to say out loud on a public forum. or at least minimally a few vocal commenters. IDK if it's just feeling empowered not to hide anymore or perhaps progress we've made is creating stronger 'protective' reactions. It's scary though.

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Post by riffraff »

ghaff wrote: post #6

This chart [1] was making the rounds a while back. Whether you totally agree with its methodology or not, it certainly suggests that many people consider a huge swath of Netflix' content average at best. And for someone like me who doesn't watch a huge amount of video, that's not a great look. Tastes differ of course but my tastes aren't that out of the mainstream. And I'd rather a streaming service had a modest numb…

I enjoyed Cobra Kai and The Witcher but "exceptional"? Who the hell votes this stuff?

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Post by CraigRood »

autoexec wrote: post #63
omegalulw wrote: post #45

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I don't know about other people, but finding something to watch on Netflix is frustrating, there's so much poor quality shows. The recommendations are not good (tbf that's most streaming services) and there's no option for granular filtering. For example, I hate dubs, I would like to pick shows where the original audio is some particular language, I don't get why that isn't there? In contrast, on HBO Max / Disney+, u…

I agree, netflix might be too embarrassed by their catalogue to show people a simple A-Z listing of everything they have, but I'd absolutely watch netflix more often if they did. Scrolling through the same shows I'm not interested in over and over across their multiple random/useless categories takes up way too much time. Every so often I'll go to search and enter random 2-3 letter combinations because I usually find…

The UI/UX is the crux of the problem for me, and infact, the same problem with Amazon Prime.

They both have fantastic shows and films, I know because i've seen some of them, but they NEVER seem to show up in app. Instead, I get endless scrolling of the same shows I skip over every time.

The algo doesn't seem to learn (Not to say it doesn't but the perception). The UI doesn't have enough unique elements to drive the algo. What I mean is if I tend to watch 20min comedy shows between 9-11pm. Create me some blocks of shows that meet this criteria. So a rewatch, continue and a new show.

They need to allow the customer to feed in more data. Integrate IMDB, Trakt etc and farm this data to improve recommendations, even if they are shows/films outside of their catalogue. I have a feeling that the lack of "I've seen this before outside of Netflix" button and the simple thumbs up or down doesn't provide the depth in the data.

I get why they moved to the current rating system, the thread on here discussing it at the time was actually really insightful for someone who was learning algos at the time.

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Post by emptysongglass »

hef19898 wrote: post #243
emptysongglass wrote: post #235

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Did you just actually compare coming out as LGBTQ and sexual identity to conspiracy theories? Come on, you can do better.

No, I did not. I am saying using language improperly invites the wrong kind of conclusions. Please respond to the strongest possible interpretation of my comment.

I have trans friends. We get along. I do not hate people for choosing an identity. That is silly.

I could get into the futility of binding ourselves to an identity (any identity) and how it perpetuates suffering but this is not the time or place.

I think it's important to also point out that comments like yours, drive-by tweet-sized derision, directly feed the outrage culture humanity faces today.

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Post by hef19898 »

charcircuit wrote: post #124
scarface74 wrote: post #121

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> Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on People said the same thing in the 60s when Star Trek had the nerve to have a representative crew aboard the Enterprise and when they showed an interracial kiss.

From what I can tell Netflix's catalog includes Stal Trek so you are just backing up his point.

Owning streaming right =/= producing content.

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Post by odessacubbage »

Spivak wrote: post #156
solarhoma wrote: post #133

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It becomes a problem though when shows are catering to what 1% (or less) of the population looks like or is diagnosed with. This is what people are getting upset with. Representation is fine. But when every new show you turn on has half of the cast as a trans person, a non-binary person, and a whatever else it gets old. It gets old when historical shows and films have distorted facts or figures to, again, fill some q…

So if representation is fine what do you want it to look like? Because by your rules black people aren’t allowed to have fun fantasizing about being a pirate sailing the high seas in colonial England, a trans man can’t be in a WWII fiction fighting nazis, a woman can’t be in a medical drama about stopping the cholera outbreak. So if they can’t be key roles (i.e. important at all to the plot) minorities should be rele…

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