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Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Post by bryans »

chockchocschoir wrote: post #185
bryans wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "I was already paying $200 a year, which I think is pretty expensive," In other words, she has no idea what bandwidth or server costs are and doesn't realize Vimeo is definitely losing money on distributing her videos, but still arrogantly believes she is entitled to infinite bandwidth for free because "that's what YouTube does."

Seems you are the one who doesn't have any idea about how much "bandwidth" really costs, which is $0. When peering happens, do you think they put quota on how much bandwidth you can send through? No, you have a throughput limit but then after that its unmetered. No way Vimeo is paying per TB served if they hope to one day make profits (unless they already do so). You can easily setup your own personal video hosting s…

Your insistence that access, peering and infrastructure costs equal $0 couldn't be further from the truth, and unmetered doesn't mean infinite, so your entire premise is false to begin with. Vimeo is not running on a $100/mo server, and that you believe you understand their costs better than they do is ridiculous and shameful.

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Post by technobabbler »

omnimus wrote: post #182
moralestapia wrote: post #131

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What's the point of "premium" if you only want bits delivered at an acceptable rate? Bunny CDN would give you 2TB for about 20 bucks/month. I know you'd then have to use your own website/player but that's not really a big deal, most people that use Vimeo have a website anyway, it's not that hard to code an tag ... I don't think this was a good move by Vimeo, but maybe they're doing so bad (financially, as I think the…

The problem with comparing themselves with cloudflare/bunnycdn is that Vimeo is making big chunk of their money on "pro" creators who pay 20 bucks for what would be 0,5 usd costs those CDNs have. They have few videos with few streams - but Vimeo is their portfolio. They are limited by monthly upload sizes but thats all. I really think this shift is not smart one for them. Because these creators will move especially o…

Cloudflare charges by the minutes delivered though, so if one of your videos unexpectedly gets popular, your monthly bill might spike up. That's a scary level of unpredictability when you're a small team (or lone wolf) that doesn't know ahead of time how viral a video would get.

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Post by verelo »

crumpled wrote: post #105
bragr wrote: post #90

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Maybe to mail them but not to have them made.

Depends on what you mean by "have them made" You can definitely do it yourself on-demand for less than a couple bucks. I think you could have a semi-pro looking package, and still do it yourself for less than $10

Maybe it’s a generational thing. I used to buy 50 packs for $25 AUD, the cases were the most expensive part…if you really needed them.

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Post by johnnyanmac »

mjburgess wrote: post #6

Am I the only one thinking, "fair enough" ? Vimeo has transitioned through different strategic directions, and seems to have settled on B2B -- if this doesnt work for a platform user, move platform.

Nothing businesses like to see more than "we'll hike your prices 17x with a week's notice".

If this is their goal, They are doing the equivalent of walking into a big business meeting drunk, and then throwing up on some executive.

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Post by DenseComet »

sireat wrote: post #119

I have over 500 unlisted (meaning you need to have the link to watch it) tutorial videos (30-180mins each) on Youtube. They are used for various programming classes that I teach. Each gets 10-100 views depending on class size. I know that Youtube is a ticking time bomb for those not monetizing the videos to Google liking. Enough horror stories from HN and friends. So I would love to find an alternative but each time…

No harm in staying with YouTube for now, as long as you have a local copy of all your videos.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Post by evancoop »

There are a few issues here.

First, the rather clumsy manner in which this was handled - even if certain customers aren't profitable, asking 'em to suddenly pay 10x what they paid before is a recipe for bad press.

Second, if Vimeo is unwilling to exert the effort to handle niche customers, there are folks waiting in the wings like (https://instillvideo.com/) for health and fitness folks.

Third, long-term incentives suggest growing a customer base rather than short-term plays for larger clients.

Curious where these displaced customers land!

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Post by saiya-jin »

letitbeirie wrote: post #220
matt-attack wrote: post #206

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Try running an IHOP or the like. You’ll be keeping a dollar or two on that $15 entree.

Or a gas station. Their margins are outrageous but only if they can get you to come inside - they're only making a cent or two off each gallon of gas they sell.

Here in Europe, some brands (that I consistently stay away from) like BP have consistently higher prices than rest of the market. We talk about competition of Eni, Shell, Total, Agip etc. Not meaning no-name questionable shops.

I don't think they are that ineffective in manufacturing, renting/buying land, building infrastructure or paying much more. Some locations ask for higher prices just because they don't have any competition in area.

And yes they charge easily 3x for stuff they know you will buy like redbulls, chocolate and so on.

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Post by Brian_K_White »

matt-attack wrote: post #206
com2kid wrote: post #163

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Consumer electronics. Make a device for $5, it'll sell on store shelves for $30, you may get $3-$5 of that. Everyone is super spoiled by the finances behind digital distribution methods.

Try running an IHOP or the like. You’ll be keeping a dollar or two on that $15 entree.

But that $14 went to 50 different suppliers. Your dairy supplier didn't suddenly decide they are worth $5 all by themselves.
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