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Ask HN: How can I make a “kid's computer” today as good as an Apple II?

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Re: Ask HN: How can I make a “kid's computer” today as good as an Apple II?

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Just get an old computer. Old computers don't die - their users do. You can get a nicely specc'ed ZX Next ( https://www.specnext.com/ ) or Amstrad CPC6128 for the budget, or find an old C64 and deck it out with some solid-state storage (actually do this for all the machines, they all have it now). My kids learned hacking on an Oric Atmos with a Cumulus drive (SD-card storage), which was just mind-blowing to see and a…

+++++ This is what I always imagined I'd do if I had kids, and I think I'd love every minute of it. Did your kids get bored with those things when they got a look at an iPad? Or did they understand what they were looking at?

At first they were all "oh this is crap, look how big the pixels are! " but then after I typed in a 10-liner, the wonder started and they haven't complained a bit since, besides the time the power went out and nothing was saved .. but even that was a valuable experience, because my kids finally were able to properly elucidate the difference between a file and a folder, and in fact had a much better understanding of what a file is, in the first place .. a problem many still don't quite resolve today.

Just go for it. Even if your kids ridicule it, you'll have fun. :)

Re: Ask HN: How can I make a “kid's computer” today as good as an Apple II?

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I have several Thanks for asking

Wicked! What’s your goto when things are ambiguous? I find myself defaulting to stuff I learned from my parents when I was young. Not because I believe I was raised perfectly or in the One True Way, but because I don’t know what to do and that’s the pattern I default to. Any ideas?? I’d dig getting get of patterns and parenting in the moment, but it’s very hard (for me).

When things get ambiguous (which I'll take to mean, "they don't get it the way you're explaining it" - please correct/direct my understanding if you meant something different), I look for how others have explained something - or I'll take my kids to someone else and ask in front of them how they'd explain it: it's as important to me that my kids know I don't know everything and am willing and want to learn as it is to be able to answer/explain things to them in the way I learned/understood it :)

Sometimes, intentionally or not, we all, of course, revert to "how we learned it" - and sometimes it's because you can't find someone else to explain it, or some other way to accomplish something, or of all the ways you've seen it learned/explained, you really are using the "best" :)

Re: Ask HN: How can I make a “kid's computer” today as good as an Apple II?

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Are you aware of Nintendo Game Builder Garage? [1,2] My youngest daughter was begging me to get this for her when it came out. She spent ages in earlier years trying to figure out doing stuff with the MIT Scratch offline editor. She's not super keen on text-based programming yet (my elder daughter is and solidly resists my typed FP propaganda in favour of hand-typed OO programming), but these kind of visual programmi…

I'm vicariously proud of your children :) Out of curiosity, how old are they, and when did you start them on programming related stuff? I have a 5yo and 7yo boy. The older one is just starting to develop an interest in creating things, and recently took an unsuccessful (but still educational) stab at learning Blender.

18 and 15. I started them on Scratch about 9 years ago, so your elder was about the same age as my younger when we started, and I kept coming back to its model to explain ideas about algorithms.

Re: Ask HN: How can I make a “kid's computer” today as good as an Apple II?

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I had a similar problem a few years ago. While I never found the perfect machine here is how I have been introducing my now 10 year old son to the world of computers: - I bought him a Kano computer kit when he was about 7. The kit retailed for about $250 at the time and a kid could assemble it "like LEGO". It came with educational software that introduced him to programming languages, etc. (Unfortunately I do not thi…

This is me-in-5-years I hope. You're a good parent.
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