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A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

stareblinkstare wrote: post #93
honkycat wrote: post #90

I love smoking weed. I smoke pretty much every day. Just a little bit, a puff on the vape pen to get my groove going after work. I find it USELESS for problem solving or productivity, but hey: I don't need to be productive 24 hours a day. I just want something to take the edge off while I play a strategy game or fart around on a game prototype. I NEVER do it during work or when I have to drive. I started smoking weed…

> not funding drug lords. I avoid illegal drugs for this reason. I hate to break it to you... [Edit: it's best if I expand this comment. The people who currently sell "legal" weed whitewashed illegal operations and coordinated it with lawmakers to put them at the top. Chinese, oddly enough, play a big part at this, since we're on an anti-China bend right now it might be useful to know. This whole legal drug thing...…

"You're supporting massive drug lords that wear suits and work alongside law enforcement."

So Heineken, big tobacco, folks behind the opioid crisis, Wells Fargo, etc?

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Post by phonethrowaway »

ok_dad wrote: post #191

I used to vape full spectrum THC+CBD cartridges and other forms of "vape juice" ("sugar", "oil", etc. are in that category) and consume THC+CBD edibles all day long, every day (except when I had to drive somewhere, I would stop for 4-6 hours or more prior to the trip), for about 2-3 (maybe 4?) years when I was in a legal state, but then I had to move to a non-legal state and since I have a kid it's no longer possible…

The farm bill made all hemp derived products legal federally at long as they contain only trace amounts of Delta 9 THC. Delta 8 and THC-O/acetate are legal. Not as strong, slightly different, but it gets the job done... kinda. Check it out... if you can. Check your state laws.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by LouisSayers »

ses1984 wrote: post #226
LouisSayers wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not block out a couple hours during the day where people can't interrupt? This was brought up many times in my last workplace and we found that we could cancel lots of meetings and magically the days became much more free. I also never put slack on my phone, and use the snooze functionality. Usually you can make the time if you really want to.

Why would I do this? What I’m doing works for me.

More free time? I mean is it understood that you're not working much during the day? Otherwise it sounds like you'd have to be "on" pretty much all the time.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by tata71 »

odonnellryan wrote: post #220
ok_coo wrote: post #195

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The hippie speedball makes me ultra-productive, but unfortunately employers (well, mine) are probably not cool with me being high on Zoom calls. :/ I just wanted to chime in and say that, for some people, THC+caffeine in the right settings can give you a nice hyper-focus. I wish I could use the combo more often.

I haven't ever been high during work hours, but I have tried to program while high. I tunnel vision too hard to get things done. I find it impossible to debug or think about broad solutions. I also am under the suspicion that I'm dumber when high.

Ever vaporized or tincture/small edible instead of smoke?

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Post by intricatedetail »

neveradmitmyid wrote: post #135

I've been a heavy, 1 oz. of Indica a week smoker for decades, while being an extremely productive lead and principal software engineer on dozens of highly visible tech products. I am part of a heavy smoking, high tech collective of startup and career research individuals from companies people use everyday. I start my day with a combination of THC and caffeine, which folds into a deep work and research focus lasting t…

These exist.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by tata71 »

mrtksn wrote: post #120
ModernMech wrote: post #110

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> yet to see someone fun and intelligent when Iim sober and they are high on cannabis I've gotta ask: how do you know you haven't yet? Not everyone who is high loves to announce it to the world.

You can usually tell from the smell

Oh, so you believe all people using cannabis are the ones lighting it on fire/probably using tobacco, at the same time?

Common misconception. Find vaporization people!

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by tata71 »

stef25 wrote: post #80

Used to smoke daily for 20+ years. Nobody should kid themselves that pot makes you "stupid", for lack of a better term. Also puts me in a really bad mood the next day - short tempered, even aggressive. On rare occasions it does help with brainstorming, looking at things differently. But mostly it's good for forgetting about your day and just going to bed.

Smoking (carcinogens, lowered blood oxygen) makes you stupid.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by Beefin »

extr wrote: post #63
Karsteski wrote: post #41

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Do you consider getting a high off of caffeine to be unethical? Assuming some people find weed to be a performance enhancer, why is that different?

Well for myself, most of the time when I start working somewhere I sign agreements stating I won't be using drugs/alcohol on the clock. So even though I may feel it's personally okay and the agreement is silly, I would still be violating it. Perhaps I could approach my employer and explain actually getting high makes me more productive, but I have never had the courage to start such a conversation :)

caffeine is a drug. i saw your response regarding the illegality of it being the major deterrent. if it weren't, would you change your viewpoint?

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Post by Beefin »

throwawaygh wrote: post #117
nickysielicki wrote: post #36

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Yeah but do salaries represent that? The biggest mistake I've made in the past 10 years of my life is choosing to focus on low level instead of just chasing the latest and greatest react/rails stuff. Fresh grads with experience only in Java at $FANCY_CO outearn me by a factor of 2.5 because they get on the web/app track. Meanwhile over in embedded I'm writing highly performant const-correct modern asio C++ applicatio…

> Parent comment had the nerve to imply that I'm not even a true programmer. That wasn't my intention. > Fresh grads with experience only in Java at $FANCY_CO outearn me by a factor of 2.5 because they get on the web/app track. 1. In fact, my example of "less complex job" was "web dev". 2. Most fresh grads doing web dev make $55K or so. The $FANCY_CO engineers are an outlier. And, FWIW, within those companies, the lo…

point is, what does it matter how complex the programmatic effort is, cognitively? judge the ability to be high during the tasks by its' earning potential :)

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Post by couchand »

vlovich123 wrote: post #122
thewarrior wrote: post #94

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I think that people thinking that mind altering substances cannot be a useful tool should keep an open mind about it and let those people who are getting real results out of it keep doing their thing. And yes these people do exist. They are not going to be too open about it because of how taboo it is. It’s well known that many of the greatest rock bands, highly productive mathematicians like Paul Erdos and comedians…

That may be the case but we should also be careful to not assume that people under the influence are able to accurately evaluate its impact on their performance. Nor should we extrapolate on the general impact based on the experiences of some. Not everyone smoking that jazz cabbage is a Steve Jobs. And there’s no guarantee that the change it has is good for that person (eg triggering some latent susceptibility to sch…

I do like the sound of "jazz cabbage", but I think you're using it derisively and possibly with a tinge of racism. And that makes me sad.
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