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Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by pc86 »

jeffs4271 wrote: post #240

Nice. I've been a Kinesis user for 25 years. In the 90s I added the Silicon Graphics PS/2 driver to IRIX and I had a budget for testing. I had an RSI problems. I spent most of the budget on a a Kinesis and a data hand. It has been great for helping me manage my RSI issues. Still a process to manage it. I do have an ErgoDox to really try first. Know it is an adjustment. But it is hard not to try this...

The flatness of the ErgoDox gives me pause when compared to something like a Kinesis or a Dactyl. I think the Moonlander is gorgeous but similarly it seems like it's "a little" ergonomic but not quite at the Kinesis/Dactyl level. But I really think my next keyboard will be one of these split models, just not sure which one yet.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by tadfisher »

sleepybrett wrote: post #231
samgranieri wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This keyboard looks like Kinesis's answer to the moonlander

IMO moonlander, ergodox, etc .. all just shitty Advantages. The only thing that comes close in the DIY/Enthusiast community is the Dactyl. Nothing beats the contour.

Except keyboard trays.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by SloopJon »

dsr_ wrote: post #61
Sholmesy wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The go to for the ErgoMechKeyboards realm seems to be to use ZMK for these sorts of things. Power consumption and customization of certain things is better supported. Individually programmable key backlights is nice, but imo a gimmick. That being said I never use backlights on a laptop keyboard, or mech keyboard, so I don't know what the use case for wanting ur Q to light up in a colour different to your W key would…

Underglow of any kind is a gimmick, but backlights, programmable or not, are useful in low-light situations, to let you see where that key that you rarely use actually is. You generally don't want Q to light up different from W, but you might want to have a low-level green glow by default and slightly brighter colors to distinguish keys around the periphery.

I very much like backlit keys. My Max Keyboard Blackbird is red, which is just right at its dimmest, although when the side panels reset I always turn them back off.

On the Kinesis Freestyle Edge, I actually like the per-key RGB lighting as well. Most of the alphanumeric and punctuation keys are red, the home keys are green, and the rest are blue. I also turn off the backlight for keys that I don't use, like PRTSC. It looks gaudy as hell, but I feel like it makes it easier to find certain keys in the Freestyle's slightly unusual layout, and to come back to home position.

The other thing I like to do with RGB lighting is to make different layouts different colors--QWERTY is all blue to distinguish it from my multi-color Dvorak.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by harha »

toyg wrote: post #174
sudhirj wrote: post #157

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Ooooh. Like this https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/freestyle-pro-keyboard/ I want that but curved a bit and tented, without a change in layout.

That's the old version, you want this: https://gaming.kinesis-ergo.com/edge/ Despite the gaming moniker, it's actually their best professional-grade keyboard, with better support for macros and backlighting.

I just wish they'd make non-gaming styled keycaps, with a font like the ones on my MacBook.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by doitLP »

Maybe this was asked elsewhere but can anyone comment on what it’s like switching back and forth between keyboard layouts when you don’t have your Kinesis? Eg on phone or using someone else’s computer in a pinch.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by Zezima »

doitLP wrote: post #245

Maybe this was asked elsewhere but can anyone comment on what it’s like switching back and forth between keyboard layouts when you don’t have your Kinesis? Eg on phone or using someone else’s computer in a pinch.

Effortless.

Muscle memory is a wonderful thing. You don’t struggle to wear two different pairs of shoes or ride two bikes.

With enough practice (three months for me) I can type easily on phone keyboards, kinesis/moonlander, and qwerty laptop keyboards.

Do yourself a favor and take care of your hands. Split, ergonomic, welled, and ortholinear keyboards make a noticeable difference for finger fatigue, RSI, etc. my wrist tenderness is gone after using my kinesis for 3 years and has not returned after using the ZSA moonlander for 3 months.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by maxyurk »

wildrhythms wrote: post #133
MrPowers wrote: post #15

Kinesis Advantage 2 is great, but it's massive and hard to travel with. Looks like the 360 might be a bit easier to travel with. The Kinesis Advantage 2 fits a Magic Trackpad perfectly right in the middle of the keyboard. This lets you perform mouse actions with you right and left hands. Emacs keybindings never made sense to me till I tried them with the Kinesis. I feel like Emacs sucks on a standard Mac keyboard and…

I have the Kinesis Freestyle 2 and, while the layout is good, I really dislike how the keys feel- very mushy, way too much travel distance, and many keys require moving my entire hand from the home row to properly depress because they're very resistant to non-perpendicular force. What I really want is an ergo keyboard with Macbook/laptop style low-travel keys.

You can try some custom keyboard with low profile switches. There are many open source ones if you're up for the task. One option is cornish zen https://lowprokb.ca/products/corne-ish-zen-2 I built corne light v2 with choc v2 for my personal use.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by injidup »

I've had a kinesis advantage pro ( same as in article but single not split ) for some 15 years. It's awesome and my only complaint was that my hands were too close together. I think I might upgrade to this.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by konart »

>3-Way Adjustable Tenting

Looks too easy to break.

Anyway - I've tried ErgoDox some years ago and realised it's two flaws:

- too light

- not enough buttons if you need to type in more than one language and your second language has more than 26 characters.

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