I think this could possibly be the black swan event.
Suez canal blocked by a massive ship
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Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship
#242Here is another accident of the "Ever Given" in Hamburg [0] in which a harbour ferry suffered a total loss after being rammed by her. Supposed cause was an unfortunate combination of slow speeds and severe wind which seems to be a difficult situation for ships as tall as these. Maybe a similar combination of events happened here? [0] https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/frachter-rammt-faehre-knapp-an-d...
Wow, the same ship with a very unusual accident just 14 Months ago. A very bad look and hints to a deeper systemic issue that was not fixed.
The cause for that accident seems to have been strong wind, which apparently makes these huge ships very hard or even impossible to maneuver when they are going slow.
If true, then the "systemic issue" is only that ships are getting too big.
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#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
Had more luck with this one, hug of death? https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:5630138/zoo...
Still stuck. 6 tugs are on it and a pleasure craft, possibly used to direct operations or some idiot taking pictures.
>and a pleasure craft
I see that labeling too, but the Tahia Misr2 is a tug, sister to the Tahia Misr1.
I'm not sure why it's displaying as a pleasure craft.
Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow, the same ship with a very unusual accident just 14 Months ago. A very bad look and hints to a deeper systemic issue that was not fixed.
The cause for that accident seems to have been strong wind, which apparently makes these huge ships very hard or even impossible to maneuver when they are going slow. If true, then the "systemic issue" is only that ships are getting too big.
Hi. Skipper here (nothing of the size of the ship in question, obviously:).
Ships of ANY size are hard or impossible to maneuver when they are going slow and have a blackout. The size doesn't matter.
The control surfaces only work when they move with regards to water.
The ship that does not move is uncontrollable with rudder and it needs to use something else to help it maneuver. This something else can be a tugboat that rotates the ship by the force it can generate, or it can be thrusters. Thrusters aren't propulsion method and they are relatively small and can counter only so much wind.
Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship
#245Damn, imagine having to go around South America as a detour.
Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship
#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
Super-ships emit ~5g_Co2/Ton/km on average[1], while railway is 2-35g, air transport is 700-3000g and truck transport is 100-2000g. Surprisingly, the bigger the boat the more effective. We tend to have a bias against larger machines, but often they can be the cleanest in proportion. [1] https://www.ademe.fr/sites/default/files/assets/documents/86...
Isn't the problem that ships are burning heavy oil instead of diesel or similar? CO2 isn't the main worry afaik, it's the rest that gets blasted unfiltered into the atmosphere and the left over sludge that gets illegally dumped into the sea.
Burning that kind of fuel near populated areas is a problem, so long-distance shipping is probably the best use for it.
Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship
#247Damn, imagine having to go around South America as a detour.
Unless I’m very much mistaken, the Suez is in Egypt, so the detour would be around Africa.
Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship
#248Damn, imagine having to go around South America as a detour.
Around the horn of Africa. The Suez canal is in Egypt, Africa. The Panama canal in in Panama, central America.
You are thinking of the wrong channel.
Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship
#249Damn, imagine having to go around South America as a detour.
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#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 300 of every $2,000 of shipping costs for administration and paperwork Damn that's a lot. I understand this is a capital intensive industry so I guess it's hard/impossible to get in now but it seems like if someone started a competitor from scratch and had great software as the foundation of their company, they'd make a killing
"great software" "logistics" "from scratch" it does not compile, I guess it's just like those ERP Systems - you don't need shitton of domain knowledge, because you need fuckton of domain knowledge and during development you'll learn even more and have to refactor a lot of stuff frequently for edge cases.
https://xkcd.com/1831/ relevant xkcd