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Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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I never understood why companies paid the living costs of SF instead of locating in the Midwest or smaller cities. Someone told me it’s because SF is where all the talent goes so it would be unwise to locate elsewhere. Maybe COVID has revealed that geography is not as important to success as people believed.

1. Closeness to the Stanford university ecosystem which promoted tech. Berkeley isn't too far away physically, though it may not be very near ideologically. Talent helps. 2. Matthew Effect: The (talent-)rich (cities) get richer. 3. Weather. I have lived at some point in the midwest. Shovelling snow in a morning storm so that you can get in the car to go to office is not something I'd want to do again. Maybe Denver ha…

5. Because in 1956 William Shockley moved there, for somewhat arbitrary reasons

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "special brand of lawlessness" includes having hit an all-time-low robbery rate in 2019, the latest data available.

San Francisco high in property crime but low in arrests: "San Francisco has by far the highest property crime rate in California, with more than twice the number of reported thefts per capita than Los Angeles or Santa Clara counties, according to a new report by the Public Policy Institute of California. And when it comes to arrests, San Francisco is 50th out of the state’s 58 counties." https://www.sfchronicle.com/b…

Did I say arrests?

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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My friend lived in SF for 3 years, then left for a year. He called me to say, “dude what happened to SF? Apparently it’s all shit and needles now.” I had to explain to him that nothing has changed. He was just reading sensationalized media. I live in SF, I would like the city cleaned up, more accountability for taxes, more focus on tax payers over homeless. But at the same time, SF represents liberalism in the US so…

> The mayor of Miami literally bought a billboard right now begging people to go to his city. Going on a bit of a tangent here, but I moved to central FL a couple years ago and I tend to browse jobs from time to time just to see whats around me, so while I don't live in Miami, specifically, I have looked around. Looking at Florida is weird, compared to some other places I've been, the market in FL seems rather disapp…

Seems like there's a lot going on in Miami: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_qRK9VplNY

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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The misinformation about Prop. 47 is stunning to me. It did not change anything relating to violent crime, nor did it make petty theft legal. Petty theft is still punishable by jail time. Robbery is still a felony. What it actually did is raise the line between misdemeanor and felony theft from $450 to $950.

As chomp pointed out, the limit for felony theft in Texas is $2500.

The risk of getting shot by is also significantly higher.

And non-quip: the police haven’t given up in Texas.

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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post #227

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Is there some CDC or HHS data on public defecation? e: remove false info

The incident in your link occurred in Canada, not San Francisco.

I could have sworn when I first heard about it, it was a SF thing. My bad.

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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post #6

I'm leaving San Francisco next month also. I just see no reason to continue living here. The weather is nice in California, but the city is so mismanaged it's a joke. The homelessness has been an issue for decades now and local politicians always talk about it, but what do they actually do to help? I genuinely have no clue where the high taxes go. I just find it so ironic that San Francisco is a bastion of liberalism…

Did you vote at past elections? If you didn't, you're partially responsible for the shit we walk on.

For very small values of ‘partial’, maybe.

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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I love SF but they stole shit from my car, ran over my motorcycle, and then stole my motorcycle when I fixed it. Like, dude, I'll be back eventually because it has great geography and I have lots of friends I adore there.

But Jesus, man, I need a break. This is too much for so little time.

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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Enforcing quality of life laws. It doesn't even have to be a conservative city. Both Boston and Miami look like first world cities compared to SF and LA.

Boston? Conservative? You have no clue what you’re talking about

They said Boston _wasn’t_ conservative.

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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post #6

I'm leaving San Francisco next month also. I just see no reason to continue living here. The weather is nice in California, but the city is so mismanaged it's a joke. The homelessness has been an issue for decades now and local politicians always talk about it, but what do they actually do to help? I genuinely have no clue where the high taxes go. I just find it so ironic that San Francisco is a bastion of liberalism…

> "I just find it so ironic that San Francisco is a bastion of liberalism, yet in Tenderloin every day for decades tech bros have stepped over needles and homeless people on their way to make their 200k a year" What is the irony?

That the most liberal place has such disparity, I assume.
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