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Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Or that you can use that money for a Matrix server instead of supporting centralization. Element is less polished than Signal app but they've been catching up quite fast. If you and your friends aren't locked into the Signal ecosystem yet, might be worth considering, especially if you're techies.

Matrix comes up a lot but even Signal is often called not polished enough. And for matrix onboarding is hard for techies and I've had zero chance for the general public. Fine to push it towards techies, but my grandma can't figure it out but she can Signal. Push matrix when it's more polished but right now it just feels silly to push it.

Unfortunately very true, so although I'm not a big fan of Signal's centralization and USA-based metadata processing (I'm not from the USA), I'll probably end up moving my family from (now) Telegram to Signal.

Alternatives would be Threema and Wire, but Wire has the same main issues as Signal and Threema doesn't have video calls nor a desktop client and an unusable web client (deal breaker for me: you need to navigate two menus on your phone to reconnect every time your phone connects to another wifi or you suspend your laptop or anything).

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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FYI - check the JRE ep with Moxy Marlinspike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ0NkT6gbP0 https://open.spotify.com/episode/2uVHiMqqJxy8iR2YB63aeP === (Clearly downvoted by idiots who didnt even watch the short edit about signal... HN has an arrogance problem... Moxy Marlinspike is the founder of signal - and he talks about why he did so... Listen to him...)

a lot of people are pissed about the podcast moving to spotify as well

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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post #71

I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/

A good thought, I just did as well.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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post #151
post #92

Centralized servers for the lose

How would things work in practice for a decentralized network? Regular people won't host their own servers.

Probably like email or all the other decentralized services the federated people talk about. Email didn't get mass adoption until centralized servers like Hotmail and Yahoo came online. People don't want to run their own servers and now a days it's a lot more work to do so.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Very good point. People will happily pay 50 pounds a month for an IPhone and thinking nothing of it. But then really struggle to pay a penny for an app that runs in that iPhone. There’s some funny psychology going on.

One big hangup users have is a difference in expectations. They know what they're getting with the money they pay towards their iPhone. Heck - most users will gladly pay exorbitant prices for a cup of coffee as long as it meets their expectations. The same cannot be said for a given app they pull off the App Store. The quality experience can vary greatly from app to app. Even then, an app that fits your lifestyle may…

For me I think it is a question of ownership. It is easier to pay for something you actually own. Software already is intangible, but add in modern licensing, app stores, etc and you really do not have any ownership over your software. Even in the case of open source software like signal, Apple could chose to boot them off the app store tomorrow and I would lose my "investment".

There was a time in the 90s/00s where you bought software in a big box, and it came with all sorts of manuals and such. The tangible assets (manual, floppy, box, whatever) along with the licensing agreement made that software much more valuable than the software we use today.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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The loan is not a loan, its a gift. There was some tax reason it was done this way

Do you understand what the tax play is?

https://aronsonllc.com/nonprofit-organizations-accounting-fo...

I dont understand it much, but its to make Signals life easier during tax time since its such a large gift.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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post #148

Time to jump ship! Use element / matrix an open, decentralized, end-to-end encrypted chat protocol with slick clients for Android, iOS, Desktop & Web: https://element.io/ Also easy to self-host a server, if you need full control: $ mkdir -p ~/synapse $ pip3.6 install --user jinja2 matrix-synapse $ cd ~/synapse $ python3.6 -m synapse.app.homeserver \ --server-name my.domain.name \ --config-path homeserver.yaml \ --gen…

Can I use it if I don't want to host a server? Are there any trustworthy public servers?

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Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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post #71

I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/

Donated, and submitted for employer match!
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