(slightly offtopic) imagine running "docker pull hello-world" and getting 403 because you were born in a wrong country
I would be mad at the US if this happened to me
Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
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Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
What non-violent (yes, there is violence inherent in sanctions, but it is a rather different scale than war) alternative would you suggest for punishing a foreign country? EDIT: I see this question has been asked in other threads, but not answered. Whether Iran should be punished is a separate question (one on which I am personally too ignorant to hold an opinion about) from how should one country punish another.
> What non-violent alternative would you suggest for punishing a foreign country? It is not for the US to "punish" other world states, even if "Iran should be punished". If you, or your state, believe some kind of sanctions are in order, there are international bodies and forums where this can be discussed and decided upon: The UN security council, international courts, and other more specialized bodies, some of whic…
Why discussing it in the UN is better? Why involving other non democratic countries in the decision making? The UN is not some magical entity where every decision is better than whatever decision the US can take by themselves. If anything it is the opposite, since many of the countries there are not democratic, corrupt or just plain backward and their decision have no consequences to their leaders.
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#243(slightly offtopic) imagine running "docker pull hello-world" and getting 403 because you were born in a wrong country I would be mad at the US if this happened to me
I've came across websites that return a 403 to ANY IP located in Russia for some reason. Official website for NSA's Ghidra is one example. Had to use a VPN because I was having none of that bullshit.
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#244Open source code, books and knowledge should never be blocked, until we learn this we are no better than the people we are trying to "punish" with pointless and ineffective sanctions.
I fully agree. My guess is that this is targeted at hackers, to make it more difficult for them to influence the upcoming election.
What kind of hacker cannot bypass an IP block, but is capable of hacking the election?
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#245Weaponising open source is a new low, even for this particularly clueless US regime. But this is really only meaningful in the short-term. In the mid-term (2030ish), the tech game is very likely to have drastically changed: Other countries will have taken the technological lead (china & co), while the US is still engaged in endless internal conflicts (in effect a mafia-state, akin to what happend in Russia after 1990…
> Weaponising open source is a new low, even for this particularly clueless US regime.
You assume it's about open source in particular. It isn't. US sanctions are very sweeping in scope.
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#246People should resist the temptation to defend this. 1. Blocking Iranian IPs, as opposed to accounts, is almost certainly over-compliance. Note that the vast majority of websites do not do this. Even big ones, such as Gmail, do not do this. 2. It does not speak well of the United States justice system if someone could be prosecuted for failure to block Iranian IPs. If this were required, the law should be clear. Other…
> People should resist the temptation to defend this. You yourself are defending these ludicrous sanctions to some extent: > 1. Blocking Iranian IPs, as opposed to accounts, is almost certainly over-compliance. So blocking Iranian IPs is fine? If you tell me "but GitLab is in the US, it has to" - it chose to base itself in the US only after apparently having previously being based elsewhere. With the way things stand…
s/So blocking Iranian IPs/So blocking Iranian accounts/
in my previous message :-(
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#247(slightly offtopic) imagine running "docker pull hello-world" and getting 403 because you were born in a wrong country I would be mad at the US if this happened to me
I've came across websites that return a 403 to ANY IP located in Russia for some reason. Official website for NSA's Ghidra is one example. Had to use a VPN because I was having none of that bullshit.
yes, still doesn't work from Russia — https://ghidra-sre.org/
I once had a different story — some openstack Q&A website wasn't unavailable from Russia. Turned out it wasn't the website who was blocking russian ips — it was roskomnadzor carpet-blocking whole IP ranges of cloud providers.
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m a little confused at people who are mad at GitLab here. I’m under the impression that sanctions and export control laws tend to be fairly strict, and penalties for knowing non-compliance are harsh, including the possibility of jail time. GitLab’s hands are pretty tied here.
We shouldn't be upset at github/githlab/npm/dockerhub but our industry and ourselves - how did we let our projects/packages/tools/infrastructure to be hosted on such platforms in the first place? Hopefully this will trigger more activity on decentralised solutions; git is decentralised already, needs some ipfs/torrent/etc wrapper for issues/rest or maybe something based on fossil etc.
I don’t think I want to live in a world where software engineers make up their own foreign policy.
At the very least, enforceable sanctions give us options other than war. Giving that up could carry an immense human cost. An understanding of distributed software architecture does not come with the ability to understand and weigh that cost, nor does it make you a legitimate authority on which tradeoffs to choose. It’s probably inevitable, but I’ll be disappointed in our community if it happens.
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've came across websites that return a 403 to ANY IP located in Russia for some reason. Official website for NSA's Ghidra is one example. Had to use a VPN because I was having none of that bullshit.
yes, still doesn't work from Russia — https://ghidra-sre.org/ I once had a different story — some openstack Q&A website wasn't unavailable from Russia. Turned out it wasn't the website who was blocking russian ips — it was roskomnadzor carpet-blocking whole IP ranges of cloud providers.
> it was roskomnadzor carpet-blocking whole IP ranges of cloud providers.
Oh yeah, forgot about it. RKN block is usually an SSL error, a timeout, or a page from your ISP saying "this is blocked by the government, sorry". Never a 403.
Thankfully, smaller ISPs are terrifically terrible at complying with this.
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#250As an international student from an embargoed country, I’m increasingly worried if at some point there will be a law resulting in blockage of my bank account.
Already I’ve heard news of PayPal causing trouble for some of us, so I’ve stopped using PayPal for good.