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Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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I could be reading this wrong, but it looks like github allows open source contributions from sanctioned countries. https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/site-...

OK, and from the article it looks like GitLab is blocking all access to their site. So is your understanding that GitLab is currently much more restrictive than GitHub in this regard?

their readme there states

> GitHub is committed to continuing to offer free public repository services to developers with individual and organizational accounts in U.S.-sanctioned regions. This includes limited access to free services, such as public repositories for open source projects (and associated public Pages), public gists, and allotted free Action minutes, for personal communications only, and not for commercial purposes.

maybe someone can confirm how this works in practice?

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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What's your alternative to sanctions that's more effective? War?

The only thing Iran is guilty of is insufficient deference to US hegemony. Any other charge you levy can have its equal found in our so-called allies in the region, or even the US itself.

As an Iranian, I have to say that while your last sentence might be true (Saudi Arabia sucks after all), I'd still rather live in a world where the opposing superpower would pressure my country to respect human rights and stop funding terrorism, fundamentalism, and misinformation. (See what North Korea's effective foreign immunity has brought its people.) This, of course, is hypocritical on the US part, but hypocrisy is better than complacency.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

#145
Free software does not constitute a free service. It’s open source, host your own GitLab instance.

Furthermore, this is as if GitLab is the only service to block Iran. I didn’t say the Persian people, I said Iran.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

#146

Open source code, books and knowledge should never be blocked, until we learn this we are no better than the people we are trying to "punish" with pointless and ineffective sanctions.

I fully agree. My guess is that this is targeted at hackers, to make it more difficult for them to influence the upcoming election.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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Sadly to the point. I feel for Iranians in Iran (I know many, whether they call themselves Persians or Iranians as expats is their choice and I respect that). Having had the opportunity to meet the former in their homeland so so long ago, many Americans do not understand how grueling the sanctions regime system is for average Iranian citizens in their everyday; this is sadly a minor example as I saw based experiences…

What non-violent (yes, there is violence inherent in sanctions, but it is a rather different scale than war) alternative would you suggest for punishing a foreign country? EDIT: I see this question has been asked in other threads, but not answered. Whether Iran should be punished is a separate question (one on which I am personally too ignorant to hold an opinion about) from how should one country punish another.

Countries are not people (they are made of people). Punishing them makes little sense. If one wants a country to behave some way, one should think of how to make it happen, and what's the cost to everyone involved.

Sanctions should never be part of a punitive system, which at the level of a whole country is inevitably unjust. They should only be part of an incentive system, where you hope to steer the other country to the direction you want. Looked at it this way, we wouldn't ask ourselves whether sanctions are warranted. We'd ask ourselves how effective they are.

Oh, and there's this question of whether a country should have the right to influence another country to begin with. Not gonna answer that one here.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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>If we go by that logic, the U.S. would get on that list. I put an AND in my statement for a reason, please don't cherry pick parts of sentences. >The list would by these metrics include well over half the world. That's like saying that if you don't want to die you should live in a cocoon and never leave the house, rather than just making sure to avoid the most dangerous activities. GitLab is blocking the countries i…

> I put an AND in my statement for a reason, please don't cherry pick parts of sentences. As a non US-citizen, I don't really care if the US is democratic or not. People have voted and continue to vote for terrible things. What matters is what a country does. So actually the US would certainly be on that list. Unless your argument is, it's not evil if we all voted for it?

>Unless your argument is, it's not evil if we all voted for it?

This has nothing to do with good and evil which seems to be a point you're missing. It's about risk of coercion to employees of companies. The US government could be turning babies into hand bags but if it doesn't coerce it's residents into acting against their employers then it doesn't create a risk for companies.

edit: Seriously, this was all in the original sentence that you people keep cherry picking from.

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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That's so lame, basically it has nothing to do with free software and open source, you can still use them if you wish. in fact it is the corporations who are blocking us not the software!!!.

Moreover we have to point our fingers toward Iranian corrupt regime because they are bringing misery to the the people. We have to be asking this question every day: why on earth countries like japan or korea never get sanctioned. I guess the answer is simple

Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access

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post #19

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What's your alternative to sanctions that's more effective? War?

The only thing Iran is guilty of is insufficient deference to US hegemony. Any other charge you levy can have its equal found in our so-called allies in the region, or even the US itself.

Iran funds terrorism and is developing nuclear weapons and has a history of imperialism. Should Saudi Arabia be sanctioned too? I'd say so. Should we stop sanctioning Iran until then? no.
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