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Disgraceful. But will anything be done, judicially, legally? Not a chance. Tells you all you need to know.
I'm pretty sure it isn't illegal to seek out an employee with strike-busting knowledge.
Just this posting could be viewed as Amazon trying to create the impression that it is actively surveilling labor organizing activities, which it's illegal to suggest, even if you're not actually engaging in that practice.
I don’t know why this is even controversial. American style unions are bad for business, plain and simple. And Amazon is legally required to put the interests of its investors first. Amazon is going to be doing whatever it can to discourage unionization, that’s just what’s going to happen, and I find it hard to blame them.
> American style unions are bad for business, plain and simple They're not bad for business, they reduce profits, and they limit the ability of a company to exploit it's workers.
Right, so bad for business. Great for most workers though.
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It seems perfectly fine and honest to post a job listing and then take it down hours later due to backlash, claim it was a mistake, and refuse to answer follow-up questions on it? What part of that sounds honest to you?
they honestly posted a job, they honestly got backlash, they honestly decided it was a mistake, they honestly refused to answer follow-up questions. What part of that is not honest? Honestly, I think you simply don't like that they don't agree with you 100% and act as you would have them act, and you should honestly admit that, and honesty would require that you stop accusing them of being other than honest on the ba…
This is just proof that not everyone is following the same narrative that you’re personally following or understands reality the same way you do. It’s beyond me how that job post would make sense to anyone besides someone who is disconnected from the usual contending rhetorics Amazon is involved in. Nobody raised a flag on how that would look like for them? You gotta be pretty oblivious to read that and say “yeah tha…
In a broader context, I don’t understand how others see this as a victory. As if taking the job post down means it’s not still part of their strategy.
They must have found the perfect candidate!
This reminds me of how back in 2016 right before November US elections,I read threat intel reports and conference style presentations from threat intel vendors talking in detail about Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump and the Steele dossier, this was before buzzfeed decided to publish it (all other media refused at the time). This is all public stuff now but big corps are very interested in learnig about the latest strategic intel so they can adopt. And that's perfectly fine so long as no laws are broken. This is similar to how big corps get a scoop on emargoed CVEs so they can patch before it's made public. A lot of times this is what intelligence community people do when they want to settle down and make money. I'll bet good money whoever they hire has background at FBI,NSA or DIA.
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It is, however, illegal to engage in, or create the impression of engaging in, surveillance of union activities.
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In general, it's not a good idea to talk poorly about your employer in public if you want to keep your job; I've heard of at least a couple cases where someone was fired for "mouthing-off" to their spouse in a public place like a grocery store.
Pre-COVID it was very interesting sitting in a bar in downtown SF and listening to all the drunk tech workers mouthing off. You could hear a lot of illegal activites, particularly racist or poor hiring practices, boasted of or complained about very regularly.
I liked Mikkeller for this, but it got too loud. Irish Bank was also good, slower but quieter. I used to nag my friends about opsec... back when you could go places with friends :*(
Why is this a surprise? If you work in infosec at any multinational you would know activists (hacktivism) and hostile nations/leaders are a serious threat you track. Has no one heard of Dataminr? What do people think it's used for. The "labor" part is a bit unusual but given their business it kinda makes sense. This reminds me of how back in 2016 right before November US elections,I read threat intel reports and conf…