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Re: Britain to give millions of HKers a path to citizenship

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> That reason is that to understand how to solve problems elsewhere, you first need to understand how to solve the same type of problems in your neck of the woods. No, not really. It is perfectly possible to discuss many different issues without having to think of an answer for numerous X, Y, or Z issues that someone else brings up in order to distract you from the point. The issue is that whenever people do this, th…

I think you're throwing out whataboutism in a sort of ironic way. It would maybe (see below) be whataboutism if I was Chinese. I'm a U.S. citizen. I am not deflecting criticism against myself, the U.S., or China. I'm not deflecting any criticism at all, so nothing I said is whataboutism. I am simply asking people to think about and consider the problems and practical ways of understanding how to solve them. You canno…

> I am simply asking people to think about and consider the problems and practical ways of understanding how to solve them.

Thats fine. But if you are going to do that, what you should do is say "Yes, the issue you brought up is definitely bad, and I agree with you that it should be solved, and you are 100% right about it. Also, here is another problem that should also be solved".

If you are going to 100% agree with me, and say that I am right for bringing up a certain problem, and also point to a related problem, thats fine.

But if you don't say "Yes you are right. The thing you brought up is very bad, and it should stop", then it comes off as an attempt to dismiss or delegitimize the very important problem that someone previously brought up.

So great. Fine. Maybe the other thing you brought should also be solved. But that does not at all dismiss the original issue and the original issue should still be solved, and the original points that were made are correct.

I am still 100% completely justified, in every way, to bring up the original problem, and if someone is saying that the original problem that was brought up should not be solved, then that person is still completely wrong, regardless of the fact that you brought up a different problem that maybe should be solved.

Re: Britain to give millions of HKers a path to citizenship

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> There birthrate of Japan is considered low, but they are growing still I don't know where you are getting your information that the population of Japan is still growing. Japan's population is already declining. http://www.stat.go.jp/english/data/handbook/pdf/2017all.pdf "Statistical Handbook of Japan" Table 2.2 https://www.populationpyramid.net/japan/2020/ ( https://www.populationpyramid.net/sources ) https://www.w…

https://japan-forward.com/mythbusters-foreign-reporting-on-t...

My first link is the official statistics compiled by the Japanese government itself (Statistics Bureau, MIC; Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare; Geospatial Information Authority of Japan) and their projections.

Even your link confirms that the population is in decline, just not as quicky as some reporters say.

"While the fertility rate declined from 4.32 in 1949 to a low of 1.26 in 2005, the total population was increasing >>until 2011"Japan’s Population Decline Not as Rapid as Media Portrays".

I just noticed I could replace 2017 with 2019 in the official statistics link and did so, resulting in http://www.stat.go.jp/english/data/handbook/pdf/2019all.pdf

It is the same Table 2.2 That still shows a decline and projected decline.

I am not seeing anything that backs up your assertion that

> birthrate of Japan is considered low, but they are growing still

If you still want to assert this as fact then you are going to have to provide a reason that the Japanese government's own statistics and projections over at least the last 5 or so years are incorrect and what should be used as authoritative data instead.

Re: Britain to give millions of HKers a path to citizenship

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https://japan-forward.com/mythbusters-foreign-reporting-on-t...

My first link is the official statistics compiled by the Japanese government itself (Statistics Bureau, MIC; Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare; Geospatial Information Authority of Japan) and their projections. Even your link confirms that the population is in decline, just not as quicky as some reporters say. "While the fertility rate declined from 4.32 in 1949 to a low of 1.26 in 2005, the total population was…

My point is that the Japanese population ebbs and flows, but that was old news and I am wrong now about the years.
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